Perhaps there are some truths in the movie, but that doesn't negate the fact that Moore is a d-bag.

Politics will always be a tug of war between conflicting sides. The problem is that most folks lack a basic understanding of the macro system and what causes the current system (flawed as it is) to operate. Too many people are voting on feelings and looks and ability to give a smooth sounding speech (regardless of content).

 

so you guys would be ok with those nut jobs probably saying the same thing michael moore said?!?! seems if someone makes a good point and publicizes something you believe in you should probably support them; not hope that someone else you like says the same thing....

 

Hi!

Congress may help us get the pay up. The House is "soon" (don't know what that means) to vote on the bill re: crew rest, pilot records, a bunch of other stuff, and making the ATP a minimum for a -121 new hire. If it passes (and I am hopeful-just wrote to my rep), then even Mesa will have to hire a guy who has at least 1500 hours TT. I do not see how that will NOT increase the pay!

cliff
NBO

 

Aw Rats!!!! I'm kind of odd to begin with, "statistical" actually made me feel like someone.

Same here. I'm very conservative but I am an Independent. Sometimes the GOP represents my views, but other times they don't. I don't want to be tied to a party because sometimes the party line changes.

 

about 25 years.

 

You're kidding me right??? I chose this career when it held the promise of a good salary, good time off, manageable schedules, and a strong retirement. I spent every day from my first flight at age 16 working to get to the place I am today; spending countless hours working and studying, and close to $100k of my own money making it happen. Even when I started getting paid for it, I survived for years on pathetic salaries and 6 person apartments. I get here years later and lose more than half my pay (including the bump) and most of my retirement, work 30% more, and get bumped off jumpseats by RJ drivers on routes that used to have 757's and 767's on it? Almost every F/O I fly with is/has been furloughed, and you want me to stop complaining??

Go get another job? You want me to start over doing something different? I trained for this my entire adult life. You want me to spend another 25 years honing skills to be doing something else so that I can get it figured out when I'm 70?

I haven't earned much in this industry, but I've DARNED WELL earned the right to complain about what has been done to us.

You sound just like Glenn Tilton; not something I'd be proud of.

 

I hope everyone understands that the public CAN NOT do anything to raise our wages, its up to us.

But here some of our peers are flying 190s for SUCH A HIGH RATE OF PAY, look in the mirror guys.....

 

And you're the reason the industry sucks. Just because we love flying and would like to see better wages for a job that we enjoy and are passionate about doesn't mean we're complaining.

 

You sound like that RAA doush bag or the CEO of some crap airline that operates for someone who operates for someone that operates for a real airline. The type of guy who takes home 6 figures while driving slaves who are just trying to make a living in their chosen field.

 

What we do need for our profession to come back is for our mainline friends to lock up scope. If it's a US flight, it needs to be US pilots. Get rid of the regionals all together, and stop the whipsawing. I would rather be a furloughed Airways guy with a name on their seniority list that still sitting at a regional hoping they start to hire again.
Mainline guys, Do everything you can to get back your flying. If it's a 1900 you should be flying it. Start by getting the pay for those aircraft in you contract.