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saab2000 01-27-2010 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by jdalbrec (Post 752670)
because i'm nowhere near that

It doesn't matter. Low time is not an absolute indicator of success in the training process.

A few years ago we had quite a few folks come over from a couple of other carriers. Some of them were high-time captains and had thousands of hours in the same type of airplane. Some of them flunked out. Others had attitude problems. Still others weren't happy after a few months.

They're not looking for pilots with tens of thousands of hours. They're looking for professionals who will fit in with the corporate culture, who won't have bad attitudes, who will try hard in training, who will be competent (not perfect), who they can expect to keep for while, etc.

They're not looking for Chuck Yeager or Neil Armstrong or former 747 captains.

Keep trying. Persistence can pay off.

AWAC has good points and bad points. One of the good points is that we have a good, solid pilot group of professionals (mostly) who try to get along and do the right thing. If you think you can fit in with that keep trying. If someone thinks they are going to reinvent aviation they probably won't succeed.

Anyway.... Just because you are 'low' time doesn't mean everything. They are selective in hiring and training, but high time is not the only metric.

Just sayin'...

Spoilers 01-27-2010 04:41 PM

I was told they got 1100+ applications over 3 days, and they are hiring maybe 10-12 pilots, with the possibility of 30. That's about 1%. They already held interviews last week, but I'm not sure of the exact number of applicants with the majority being furloughed pilots (Mesaba, Comair, Mesa, etc.)

As far as the min. requirements: 1500TT/500ME & Turbine Experience. Airline experience preferred.

IADBLRJ41 01-27-2010 07:25 PM

Eagle is going to hire and they have a post 2015 plan.

jdalbrec 01-28-2010 04:09 AM


Originally Posted by saab2000 (Post 752706)
It doesn't matter. Low time is not an absolute indicator of success in the training process.

A few years ago we had quite a few folks come over from a couple of other carriers. Some of them were high-time captains and had thousands of hours in the same type of airplane. Some of them flunked out. Others had attitude problems. Still others weren't happy after a few months.

They're not looking for pilots with tens of thousands of hours. They're looking for professionals who will fit in with the corporate culture, who won't have bad attitudes, who will try hard in training, who will be competent (not perfect), who they can expect to keep for while, etc.

They're not looking for Chuck Yeager or Neil Armstrong or former 747 captains.

Keep trying. Persistence can pay off.

AWAC has good points and bad points. One of the good points is that we have a good, solid pilot group of professionals (mostly) who try to get along and do the right thing. If you think you can fit in with that keep trying. If someone thinks they are going to reinvent aviation they probably won't succeed.

Anyway.... Just because you are 'low' time doesn't mean everything. They are selective in hiring and training, but high time is not the only metric.

Just sayin'...

definitely all good, sound advice. I know a lot of people are competing for jobs, but trust me when I say I have been more than persistent, and I'm sure the recruiter knows who I am. I also have a couple of internal recs, so we'll see I guess.

ohboyeightyone 01-28-2010 03:58 PM

i have 1400TT 1200 multi turbine 135....and under review since 12/5..idk if its because they are really "reviewing" my app, or they probably haven't got to it yet.

Vegaspilot 01-28-2010 05:05 PM

I just checked to see my status and it says Being Reviewed. I can't remember it it has always said that or if it used to be Under Review and if there's even a difference.

horusfalcon 01-29-2010 05:23 AM

Originally Posted by saab2000
It doesn't matter. Low time is not an absolute indicator of success in the training process.

A few years ago we had quite a few folks come over from a couple of other carriers. Some of them were high-time captains and had thousands of hours in the same type of airplane. Some of them flunked out. Others had attitude problems. Still others weren't happy after a few months.

They're not looking for pilots with tens of thousands of hours. They're looking for professionals who will fit in with the corporate culture, who won't have bad attitudes, who will try hard in training, who will be competent (not perfect), who they can expect to keep for while, etc.

They're not looking for Chuck Yeager or Neil Armstrong or former 747 captains.

Keep trying. Persistence can pay off.

AWAC has good points and bad points. One of the good points is that we have a good, solid pilot group of professionals (mostly) who try to get along and do the right thing. If you think you can fit in with that keep trying. If someone thinks they are going to reinvent aviation they probably won't succeed.

Anyway.... Just because you are 'low' time doesn't mean everything. They are selective in hiring and training, but high time is not the only metric.

Just sayin'...





This is just a fancy way of them saying, "if the HR people like you, you are hired. If they don't, you are not."

....just sayin'

banja12 01-29-2010 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by horusfalcon (Post 753574)
Originally Posted by saab2000
It doesn't matter. Low time is not an absolute indicator of success in the training process.

A few years ago we had quite a few folks come over from a couple of other carriers. Some of them were high-time captains and had thousands of hours in the same type of airplane. Some of them flunked out. Others had attitude problems. Still others weren't happy after a few months.

They're not looking for pilots with tens of thousands of hours. They're looking for professionals who will fit in with the corporate culture, who won't have bad attitudes, who will try hard in training, who will be competent (not perfect), who they can expect to keep for while, etc.

They're not looking for Chuck Yeager or Neil Armstrong or former 747 captains.

Keep trying. Persistence can pay off.

AWAC has good points and bad points. One of the good points is that we have a good, solid pilot group of professionals (mostly) who try to get along and do the right thing. If you think you can fit in with that keep trying. If someone thinks they are going to reinvent aviation they probably won't succeed.

Anyway.... Just because you are 'low' time doesn't mean everything. They are selective in hiring and training, but high time is not the only metric.

Just sayin'...





This is just a fancy way of them saying, "if the HR people like you, you are hired. If they don't, you are not."

....just sayin'

Something tells me they've already found all the qualified pilots they would ever need to fill classes...and then some. I just got the rejection letter on Monday saying "we will be pursuing other candidates". My qualifications: 2000TT, 1270ME, 1115 Turbine, 121 experience, internal recommendation with application "walked-in" by management. I was told over 1200 applicants for 10 spots in a class. I'm sure the USA 3000 guys who interviewed got a look before I did, and they had to give up their furlough recall to get jobs. Think of making $56/hr cut down to $25!!! If that's the type of pilots guys like me will be up against, then I doubt anyone with less time than me will get a call sometime this spring. It's just the bleak position we as pilots are all in. Whiskey pays well for a regional, so it'll attract the over-qualified much more so than Eagle.

I guess I'll still be looking for a job! Good luck guys!!!

Spoilers 01-29-2010 07:29 AM

I exceed the mins. and have a couple of internal recommendations, but I can't get a call. I never understood how Airline HR picks their candidates, never will, but that's just the way it is. They are interviewing more candidates next week, not sure of the number though. My contact told me that from last weeks interviews, 10 candidates will get an offer. Anyone interviewing soon will most likely be placed in a hiring pool. Also, apparently they are working on a preferential hiring agreement with Piedmont & PSA.

smackahoCEO 01-29-2010 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by Spoilers (Post 753637)
I exceed the mins. and have a couple of internal recommendations, but I can't get a call. I never understood how Airline HR picks their candidates, never will, but that's just the way it is. They are interviewing more candidates next week, not sure of the number though. My contact told me that from last weeks interviews, 10 candidates will get an offer. Anyone interviewing soon will most likely be placed in a hiring pool. Also, apparently they are working on a preferential hiring agreement with Piedmont & PSA.

Your contact is just about 100% wrong. They offered a handful of people jobs last week (Feb 22nd class) I think 4 total from last week. And interviews are coming up here in the next couple of weeks to hire for a March class. Then that will do it. So... 4 people offered jobs from last week, and probably 4-6 in the coming weeks.

No such "preferential hiring" exists with PSA or Piedmont. Nor is it in the works.

Just thought I'd clear a few things up.


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