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BoilerUP 06-21-2010 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by saab2000
We also have another DCA pilot who left years ago and spent a long time captaining DC-8s, but he never left voluntarily as he had been furloughed and simply never returned. But he was re-hired about 8 or 9 years ago and kept his old employee number, but not his previous seniority.

Some of the most hilarious trips I ever did at AWAC were with that guy, including the effing Boston nor'easter in early 2007 ...

grupspdmode 06-21-2010 06:06 PM

is whisky still hiring/interviewing pilots? are there any guys in class? whats the latest? has anyone out there interviewed recently?

saab2000 06-21-2010 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 830181)
Some of the most hilarious trips I ever did at AWAC were with that guy, including the effing Boston nor'easter in early 2007 ...

I've never flown with him but he looks like the perfect guy to fly with!! Extremely experienced but always with a smirk and an evil grin on his face! I hope I have the same positive cynicism when I have his seniority!

saab2000 06-21-2010 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by grupspdmode (Post 830184)
is whisky still hiring/interviewing pilots? are there any guys in class? whats the latest? has anyone out there interviewed recently?

I think it's over. For now. But there are tons of restless people at AWAC who might be ready to leave when the better opportunity arises. So while things might be dormant right now I don't think it's done. I would not be surprised to see a few more classes in the fall or winter, depending upon attrition.

I am pretty sure this company still has tricks up its sleeves.

Natca 06-21-2010 11:49 PM

They are called for July 12th classes.

onetogo 06-22-2010 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by Natca (Post 830293)
They are called for July 12th classes.

Yup. Can confirm this.

Hatrick32 06-23-2010 05:51 AM

Whats the best way to initiate the application process?? Send in resumes, online apps, both? I would love to have any advice!

DENflyer 06-23-2010 08:20 PM

Latest word from the SOC is that the typical reduction in flights from Sept to Dec isn't going to be as big as years past. Couple that with a handful of people quitting each month and air willy will have to hire a few more classes this summer/fall.

DLAJ77 06-24-2010 04:01 AM

Heard rumors of 20 upgrades as well in the fall? Anybody been down clt recently heard this?

el jefe 06-24-2010 04:25 AM


Originally Posted by DLAJ77 (Post 831363)
Heard rumors of 20 upgrades as well in the fall? Anybody been down clt recently heard this?

Not yet, but speaking of CLT apparently it is AWAC's number two airport through the summer for average daily departures. Second to PHL and higher than DCA and LGA by about ten per day.

CLT is not a base for AWAC.

saab2000 06-24-2010 04:42 AM

We are definitely short of pilots, but that seems to be a theme across the industry.

They called me for a junior man situation yesterday for this morning even though I start a 4-day trip tomorrow morning, so that would have been compromised.

We need some more upgrades especially.

I do not know if we have had any recent attrition among the senior ranks.

sandstorm 06-26-2010 03:50 PM

Latest rumor is that we will be upgrading 18 pilots and hiring 30 or so in the very near future. Airways came to the company a couple days ago informing them that our block hours will be going up by 1,000 hours this fall I and not going down a 1,000 as they had been previously told.

Not sure how accurate this is, but this is what I heard.

Hatrick32 06-27-2010 08:22 AM

Just out of curiosity, does anyone think that 1500tt/ 1250 me/turbine time is too much for Air Wisconsin? I have heard both yes and no but would like the opinion of some whisky pilots. I submitted my online app yesterday and also mailed in my resume and just keeping my fingers crossed

Flyboy8784 06-27-2010 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Hatrick32 (Post 833003)
Just out of curiosity, does anyone think that 1500tt/ 1250 me/turbine time is too much for Air Wisconsin? I have heard both yes and no but would like the opinion of some whisky pilots. I submitted my online app yesterday and also mailed in my resume and just keeping my fingers crossed

Supply and demand dude....if you were in charge you'd be doing the same thing

Most of our new hires are failing out of training anyway.

challenger 06-27-2010 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Hatrick32 (Post 833003)
Just out of curiosity, does anyone think that 1500tt/ 1250 me/turbine time is too much for Air Wisconsin? I have heard both yes and no but would like the opinion of some whisky pilots. I submitted my online app yesterday and also mailed in my resume and just keeping my fingers crossed

i have 3300tt/2600me/2300 turbine and an internal rec and my app has been in review since Feb. Has any one herd what there new hires have been time wise? If they are haveing such high failer rates why are they staying with the lower time guys/gals

UpThere 06-27-2010 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by challenger (Post 833067)
If they are haveing such high failer rates why are they staying with the lower time guys/gals

It might not be the low time guys/gals that are having some issues...

flyerfly 06-27-2010 02:30 PM

Recently it hasn't been the low time guys having problems. The last batch of new hires were airbus pilots and a few of them didn't make it through our training program. I know one got let go for an attitude problem and I know for sure one resigned because he couldn't re-grasp the moving thrust lever concept. Either way it was unfortunate but glad our training department is doing their jobs properly.

Natca 06-27-2010 02:58 PM

I got called at 1050/145me - no internals etc etc. It was an entirely unexpected call.

challenger 06-27-2010 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by flyerfly (Post 833124)
I know for sure one resigned because he couldn't re-grasp the moving thrust lever concept..

Well this might sound bad but mabe there is a reason the airbus calls out retard at 50 feet

Aviatormar 06-27-2010 04:38 PM

Huh, interesting, I haven't herd the upgrade thing, but it'd sure be nice to see some people move off reserve and some general movement at this company would be nice.

Flyboy8784 06-27-2010 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by Aviatormar (Post 833163)
Huh, interesting, I haven't herd the upgrade thing, but it'd sure be nice to see some people move off reserve and some general movement at this company would be nice.


We need to get staffed big time! our schedules are getting absolutely insane! 7 and 8 leg days....what a bunch of cr@p!!

Ive heard that proper staffing means 10.3 pilots per airplane....dont ask how they got a decimal in there....but based on the current amount of pilots to airplanes?? we are about 70 guys short!

If one more major decides to have a hiring spree I we will be screwed!!

onetogo 06-28-2010 01:58 PM

Did any folks who interviewed last week get a call yet?

flysooner9 06-28-2010 04:41 PM

i heard they hired a guy with 600TT last week. Can anyone confirms this?

Tankerhead 06-28-2010 10:10 PM

So, are there still rumors about the RDU domicile going away?

meyers9163 06-29-2010 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by Flyboy8784 (Post 833232)
We need to get staffed big time! our schedules are getting absolutely insane! 7 and 8 leg days....what a bunch of cr@p!!

Welcome to Charlotte!!!!

Kenny Powers 06-29-2010 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 833681)
i heard they hired a guy with 600TT last week. Can anyone confirms this?


I believe so. He was CFI at Flightsafety that probably had some deep connections.

stis202 07-06-2010 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 833681)
i heard they hired a guy with 600TT last week. Can anyone confirms this?

Can't confirm but heard similar.

pagey 07-07-2010 04:15 AM

I work at FlightSafety and havent heard of anyone getting hired at AWAC.(other than someone who is no longer with us, more than 600 hours however.) On a lighter note, my application hasn't even been looked at yet, and I put it in 2 or so weeks ago. Someone "connect" me!

ejsella 07-07-2010 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 833681)
i heard they hired a guy with 600TT last week. Can anyone confirms this?

What?! Good for him/her... but I have over 1,200. I'm a CFI and I never been called. :(

flyingreasemnky 07-07-2010 08:07 AM

yeah, well, i have over 1300TT and 500 multi and can't get a call but a girl working at our company just got hired there with 900/15. She had no connections either!!! ***?

Spoilers 07-07-2010 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by flyingreasemnky (Post 838207)
yeah, well, i have over 1300TT and 500 multi and can't get a call but a girl working at our company just got hired there with 900/15. She had no connections either!!! ***?

That's because you don't have boobs!

ejsella 07-07-2010 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by flyingreasemnky (Post 838207)
yeah, well, i have over 1300TT and 500 multi and can't get a call but a girl working at our company just got hired there with 900/15. She had no connections either!!! ***?

15???? So basically just with what she finish her Comm Multi. :eek:


Originally Posted by Spoilers (Post 838220)
That's because you don't have boobs!

Hardly but I agree... :( good for her bad for us...

saab2000 07-07-2010 07:20 PM

While it is certainly not impossible that AWAC would hire someone with that few multi-engine hours, it would seem unlikely. Nevertheless, probably not unprecedented.

That said, they have a history of hiring lots of talented pilots. In more ways than one.
:D

flyingreasemnky 07-07-2010 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by ejsella (Post 838474)
15???? So basically just with what she finish her Comm Multi. :eek:

Hardly but I agree... :( good for her bad for us...

Yep, the only mutli she has is from her multi engine training. Actually, I was told they have the highest percentage of female pilots of all airlines. I wouldn't doubt if its due to preferential hiring. Her boyfriend just completed his ATP and has over 300 multi and can't get a phone call so I really don't know what else they would be looking for.

kls81 08-03-2010 07:31 AM

Hello,
I did some searching and couldn't find anything on currency requirements.
Does Air Wisconsin require a certain amount of time within the last 60, 90, 120 days?
I have about 3700tt and 800 multi, however I haven't flown much in the past year due to an attempted career change.
My previous job was flight instructing, Part 135 day VFR, and co-piloting in King Air's.
I'm willing to do what it takes to become curent again.
Any ideas?

Thanks,
Ken

el jefe 08-03-2010 08:39 AM

There was something ridiculous, like a 75% failure rate in the last few new-hire classes because the pilots were over qualified (high time) and didn't put a whole lot of effort into training, so they mostly washed out.

They want you to complete and finish training so they can get you out flying the line and abused as a reserve :p

By being away from flying and currently "rusty" do you think you can keep up with a drink-from-the-firehose training program, and be instrument proficient enough to sit in the sim for four hours a day? They spend the time to teach you how to fly the CRJ, but they don't have time to teach you how to fly a plane again.


(Personally, I think they would be better off hiring CFI's and 135's instead of furloughed mainline drivers. The new kids actually want to be there and are hungry to learn the material.)

kls81 08-03-2010 09:10 AM

I'm willing to put the time in to get back up to speed.
What I discovered when I left flying is that I do miss it. As much as I hated my job and was burnt out you don't realize what you had until your not doing it anymore. Sounds stupid, but in my case true.
I'm thinking about going and getting some sim time in a decent FTD and I hate to say it, but ATP has a CRJ course which looks pretty good except for the price. I think doing that would be more beneficial than going out in a 172 and shooting approaches. At least I would get used to flying off of glass.

Thanks

Luv2Rotate 08-03-2010 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by kls81 (Post 850072)
I'm thinking about going and getting some sim time in a decent FTD and I hate to say it, but ATP has a CRJ course which looks pretty good except for the price. I think doing that would be more beneficial than going out in a 172 and shooting approaches. At least I would get used to flying off of glass.

Thanks

Doing the ATP CRJ course doesnt promise you a job or an interview. But it does promise more debt or a lighter checkbook.
You'd be better off finding a Frasca or a "True Vision" sim and shoot approaches in a multi configuration. Fly just enough to keep current (3 touch-n-go's) and so forth. The way things are going right now, it doesnt make much sense to spend thousands on additional training or transition course without a job in hand.

kls81 08-03-2010 09:50 AM

Yeah, I wasn't counting on that course really getting me anything except some CRJ experience (and more debt).
When an airline like AWAC looks at a resume, what do they like to see?
Would they hire or interview someone in my situation?
Would getting some FTD time help my situation?

Thanks

saab2000 08-03-2010 10:18 AM

The high washout rate was not only due to folks thinking that flying the CRJ would be easy (though there was that too) but basic stuff. Like one guy who supposedly didn't declare a criminal past and another who had some major deal breaker (though I can't remember what I was told it was).

As for the question about currency, I don't know the answer. I would apply and hope for a call. I talked this morning with one of the newhires and he was previously with Midwest and is pretty experienced. But hadn't flown much or at all since being furloughed from Midwest.

Send in your stuff and be honest if they call you. Just like anywhere else.


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