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thanks but no thanks letter
does it say something different besides under review, once you have gotten the thanks, but no thanks letter when you check your application status?
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It will most likely say "Not being considered at this time". That is what is posted on mine, unfortunately.:confused:
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I threw in just for funsies (had a couple internal recs and wanted to see what'd happen). Applied 11/25, still "Being Reviewed." ATP, 2300TT/1700ME, 600 turbine.
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Looks like AWAC is offering TOWOP again for Feb.
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FWIW, apparently there is a class starting in February. Also, they will do phone interviews starting in early January with on-site interviews in January as well.
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In Charlotte or Appleton?
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Originally Posted by NightIP
(Post 730945)
I threw in just for funsies (had a couple internal recs and wanted to see what'd happen). Applied 11/25, still "Being Reviewed." ATP, 2300TT/1700ME, 600 turbine.
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Anyone have updates for AWAC? Any recent interviews?
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Just heard today that interviews will probably start around the middle of Feb with classes starting in March. They have received over 1000 applications and will only be hiring approximately 20 pilots. They are looking mainly at 135 guys but not interested in any of the Net Jets guys. They may also take some furloughed pilots from the likes of Mesa as long as they give up all recall rights at their previous airline. Supposedly there was a glitch in the software that was accepting resumes and erroneously sent out thanks but no thanks emails to applicants during the first application window. Those applications that were affected are still in the system and may still receive a call for interview. Sounds like interviews will be done in Appleton, WI.
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Originally Posted by FL180
(Post 737350)
They are looking mainly at 135 guys but not interested in any of the Net Jets guys... They may also take some furloughed pilots from the likes of Mesa as long as they give up all recall rights at their previous airline.
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Originally Posted by JumpSeater
I know some good ones there, but they aren't planning on leaving.
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I'm a 135 guy..and still "being reviewed"...applied 12/5...we'll see?!?!?!??
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Waste of time - AWAC sucks
Originally Posted by JayHub
(Post 713795)
Their site says that they are accepting Pilot resumes in 'anticipation of potential' hiring in early spring 2010.
Hang on.......have the management and the union come to an agreement on the United flying? Or Is this 'extra' flying on the US Airways side? Stay away... you've been warned |
Originally Posted by SWANSONG
(Post 740250)
Yeah, this airline is a joke. Training, Scheduling, Recurrency training - all the pits. Stilll stuck in the 80s - using fear tactics and intimidation, and even sexual discrimination. But the Chief now plays it off like its his biggest priority. What a laugh! Sell your boat and divorce your wife pal - then maybe we'd all start taking you seriously. Otherwise you can expect more of the same "yes sir no sir" followed by a finger as you walk away!
Stay away... you've been warned The Joke of it is that our CP doesnt even hold a type rating in the CRJ.....this place is a joke.....unless we get some 900's soon....we will be closing doors 2015....as per our CEO....encouraging right??? |
Just an update at AWAC, all the furloughs are being offered recalle come mid april. So I've heard that interviews will be starting in feb or march. I've also heard up to 30 new pilots are possible but things can change quickly. Good Luck to anyone who has applied, its going to be a tough job to get with everyone on furlough.
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whats going on with air whisky?
anyone hear anything new?
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Has anyone been called for an interview next week?. I know someone who has. If you were called and are going, please PM me.
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Originally Posted by Flyboy8784
(Post 740257)
The Joke of it is that our CP doesnt even hold a type rating in the CRJ.....this place is a joke.....unless we get some 900's soon....we will be closing doors 2015....as per our CEO....encouraging right???
Your CP was a Captain here on the RJ for quite a few years. Thus, he has a type. He may not be current, but he is certainly qualified. It's allways better to have your facts straight before you go talking like a big shot to the public forums. JMO Whiskey |
With all of the furloughed pilots recalled (as of April), the CP might actually be able to start flying the line.
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Originally Posted by SWANSONG
(Post 740250)
Yeah, this airline is a joke. Training, Scheduling, Recurrency training - all the pits. Stilll stuck in the 80s - using fear tactics and intimidation, and even sexual discrimination. But the Chief now plays it off like its his biggest priority. What a laugh! Sell your boat and divorce your wife pal - then maybe we'd all start taking you seriously. Otherwise you can expect more of the same "yes sir no sir" followed by a finger as you walk away!
Stay away... you've been warned Swanson - Maybe you should leave if you are so unhappy and let one of the fine pilots on this thread have a job they would appreciate. |
Originally Posted by whiskey72
(Post 744016)
Your CP was a Captain here on the RJ for quite a few years. Thus, he has a type. He may not be current, but he is certainly qualified. It's allways better to have your facts straight before you go talking like a big shot to the public forums.
JMO Whiskey Not trying to come off as a jerk at all, but no, your CP was NOT typed on the CL-65 until attending initial with a MED return last fall. I'm sure the gentleman can fly an airplane and has plenty of credentials, but the barbie jet was not one of them. |
Originally Posted by N5139
(Post 744419)
Whiskey,
Not trying to come off as a jerk at all, but no, your CP was NOT typed on the CL-65 until attending initial with a MED return last fall. I'm sure the gentleman can fly an airplane and has plenty of credentials, but the barbie jet was not one of them. I have zero respect for a man who is in charge of the ENITRE pilot group and who I couldnt get a hold of when the poop hit the fan....their were many other people qualified for his job when DM's position became available....they had no right to hire outside of the company even if he did work here some time ago. How can someone who wasnt here during the most recent changes of our airline have the pulse of the men and women who currently worked here and survived down grades base changes...carrier changes...all of that |
Are all of Whiskey's pilots recalled? Maybe I am a little confused here, but after reading this thread, it sounds like they are running new hire classes alongside recalls. Someone correct me if I am wrong here, thanks.
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Originally Posted by Flyboy8784
(Post 744438)
they had no right to hire outside of the company even if he did work here some time ago.
I thought AWAC had a no re-hire policy if you quit? |
Originally Posted by UpThere
(Post 744823)
I thought AWAC had a no re-hire policy if you quit?
Great dude and a blast to fly with, but also well-connected in ToonTown. |
Originally Posted by N5139
(Post 744419)
Whiskey,
Not trying to come off as a jerk at all, but no, your CP was NOT typed on the CL-65 until attending initial with a MED return last fall. I'm sure the gentleman can fly an airplane and has plenty of credentials, but the barbie jet was not one of them. |
Originally Posted by N5139
(Post 744419)
Whiskey,
Not trying to come off as a jerk at all, but no, your CP was NOT typed on the CL-65 until attending initial with a MED return last fall. I'm sure the gentleman can fly an airplane and has plenty of credentials, but the barbie jet was not one of them. As far as it being wrong hiring from outside the company....Is this your company? Do you own it? Do you as a line pilot have any right or say in who they hire for CP? I don't think so. The people that pay the bills can hire whomever they dang well please. End of story. Now in your little storybook world, you might have liked someone else, but until you whip out your wallet and start funding this company...other than the concessions that we took.....then I suggest you leave the hiring to those who are in charge of it. Whiskey |
Since when did you turn into a MGMT pilot Whiskey? :p
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Originally Posted by whiskey72
(Post 744906)
I beg to differ. Before he left, he flew as a CA in the jet for about 6 months. Kinda hard to fly as CA in the jet without a type now isn't it?
As far as it being wrong hiring from outside the company....Is this your company? Do you own it? Do you as a line pilot have any right or say in who they hire for CP? I don't think so. The people that pay the bills can hire whomever they dang well please. End of story. Now in your little storybook world, you might have liked someone else, but until you whip out your wallet and start funding this company...other than the concessions that we took.....then I suggest you leave the hiring to those who are in charge of it. Whiskey |
RDU still a base?
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hey i have a question that actually relates to the thread topic... my app got rejected and it says "not being considered" as my app status. however, in the rejection email it said to continue to update your app online. I've been trying but it no longer lets me upload a resume and a few of the other functions on the online app won't come up anymore. i've tried a hundred times, multiple web browsers and even emailed someone in HR. they responded by saying, "try again". should i take this as a hint to go away? or should i try emailing my updated resume directly to HR? i'm not giving up just cause of some stupid website. thanks for any suggestions.
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Find somone to walk in your resume, that is pretty much the only way to get noticed and your best chance of getting an interview! This doesn't apply just to AWAC, but every company hiring right now. It's though! Very few jobs and tons of pilots. Good Luck!
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Originally Posted by Tankerhead
(Post 745843)
RDU still a base?
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Originally Posted by whoareyou310
(Post 745326)
What is wrong with you???? If you don't like it here..do me a favor and leave so I can upgrade someday.....
Who said I don't like it here. I could have said the same thing to the guy who knows everything. I actually do like it here. I enjoy the seniority that I've earned and regardless of the concessions, we still enjoy one of the best contracts in the industry. As far as me leaving...I'll leave when time and tide dictate it if and when it dictates it. As far as you upgrading quickly, that's half the problem with the industry today. Everyone thinks they deserve an upgrade quickly. Since when has this become the norm? If I would have sat as an FO for 10 years, well that's the way it goes. You'll upgrade when you upgrade. End of story. There is a big difference between when you think you should upgrade and when the industry is ready to upgrade addtional people. It's all about timing, not what you think you are entitled to. Sorry, but it's the way it is. Whiskey |
Originally Posted by whiskey72
(Post 745940)
Who said I don't like it here. I could have said the same thing to the guy who knows everything. I actually do like it here. I enjoy the seniority that I've earned and regardless of the concessions, we still enjoy one of the best contracts in the industry. As far as me leaving...I'll leave when time and tide dictate it if and when it dictates it. As far as you upgrading quickly, that's half the problem with the industry today. Everyone thinks they deserve an upgrade quickly. Since when has this become the norm? If I would have sat as an FO for 10 years, well that's the way it goes. You'll upgrade when you upgrade. End of story. There is a big difference between when you think you should upgrade and when the industry is ready to upgrade addtional people. It's all about timing, not what you think you are entitled to.
Sorry, but it's the way it is. Whiskey Thats easy for you to say as a mid seniority Captain....most of us FO's myself included came here for 2 reasons.....great contract and an upgrade in 2 years or less....granted theres not much we can do about the age 65 rule....the gas prices and the economy...but every FO is biting at the bit just to make some more money... Personally I think its pathetic that our contract is industry leading...it should be the benchmark from where all other airlines negotiate from. The pay sucks...and that goes for every regional airline and most majors |
Originally Posted by whiskey72
(Post 745940)
Who said I don't like it here. I could have said the same thing to the guy who knows everything. I actually do like it here. I enjoy the seniority that I've earned and regardless of the concessions, we still enjoy one of the best contracts in the industry. As far as me leaving...I'll leave when time and tide dictate it if and when it dictates it. As far as you upgrading quickly, that's half the problem with the industry today. Everyone thinks they deserve an upgrade quickly. Since when has this become the norm? If I would have sat as an FO for 10 years, well that's the way it goes. You'll upgrade when you upgrade. End of story. There is a big difference between when you think you should upgrade and when the industry is ready to upgrade addtional people. It's all about timing, not what you think you are entitled to.
Sorry, but it's the way it is. Whiskey |
Originally Posted by Flyboy8784
most of us FO's myself included came here for 2 reasons.....great contract and an upgrade in 2 years or less
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
(Post 746130)
Why would you ever think you'd upgrade in 2 years or less at a company that wasn't growing?
When i got hired upgrade was running right at 2 years cuz we were losing so many people to other airlines...they were running classes of 30 fo's a month...I guess Kevin Laware might have been spoon feeding us crap like he did to the rest of the pilot group....but i remember being there a year and having my seniority in PHL 71 outta 142....right in half....it was gonna be just about another year....then everything else came crashing down lol...no pun intended |
Originally Posted by SkyStormer6
(Post 745872)
hey i have a question that actually relates to the thread topic... my app got rejected and it says "not being considered" as my app status. however, in the rejection email it said to continue to update your app online. I've been trying but it no longer lets me upload a resume and a few of the other functions on the online app won't come up anymore. i've tried a hundred times, multiple web browsers and even emailed someone in HR. they responded by saying, "try again". should i take this as a hint to go away? or should i try emailing my updated resume directly to HR? i'm not giving up just cause of some stupid website. thanks for any suggestions.
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interviews have started
I guess that the interviews started at Air Wisconsin on Monday.
A couple of guys from Mesa and a USA 3000 were among the frist to be interviewed. Our recurrent instructor said that he thought 10-30 could be hired by the summer depending on how many of the final 13 out on furlough come back. If the LGA slot swap with Delta goes through, LGA ( and possibley RDU ) could close this summer. DCA could see about 30 flights added. A few more downgraded captains will be requalified the next few months and a batch of furloughed pilots should be done with training by Feb 11th so that they will be able to bid March schedules. Not alot of movement..... but movement none the less.............. |
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