Recalls at RAH
 

It's official. According to the company and the union, 96 of our 104 still furloughed will be recalled starting the end of Dec. We all know some will not return so maybe hiring on the horizon?

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Maybe time to HIRE some of those Midwest guys huh.
NEXT congrats to those who are getting their job back. Furlough sucks.

Lol. More will return than you think. I know of a couple 600 hour guys that have not worked ANYWHERE flying or not since being furloughed. The two that I know have been living off of Mommy and Daddy waiting to go back and be rich airline pilots.

Bud, I'm not here to start a flamefest, and you shouldn't be either. Your company (not you or the pilot group personally) literally put an entire airline full of pilots out of a job, many of which who had 25+ years there and you're stoked because you might be hiring? :( You have to understand that this doesn't sit well with people. I understand you weren't rooting for MidWest's demise but a little sensitivity would go a long way from many of the Republic pilots.

+1..................

Excellent post. Any news on recalls for former YX or F9 pilots?

This is GREAT NEWS!!!!!! Republic might be hiring into the lowest-paying seat ever in the history of 100 seat aircraft. What's a new hire first-officer start off at over there? $23/hour? What's max pay? $37/hour? I'm not even going to look at captain's rates since the upgrade is probably 10 years for a new hire now. The post above about sensitivity is right. Your furloughed guys have less than a few months put in with the company.

Thank you.

And thank you.

I knew there were people out there somewhere that still get it. :) It's a happier day in the unemployment line now. Thank god I'm not making LESS than my unemployment check to fly 100 people around, in place of a Midwest guy/gal. That is all.

Im sure no... why would they call back someone making 73$ hr when they can call back a republic FO that is jumping for joy to make 23$ hr and go around telling people they fly for mainline.

It is close to the end of what was a nice career 20 years ago, and I think Republic put the final nail in.

You all need to relax. No one is hiring. These recalls will be spread over the next 6 months. According to the agreed timeline (by all unions and company), the SLI will be complete by then.

Thank you for adding a little sanity to the discussion!

96 recalls between now and May 2010. Seniority list integration is scheduled to be wrapped up by May 2010, according to a mutual agreement between YX, F9, Lynx, and RAH representatives.

"Scheduled to be," I doubt it will be done...it's going to take awhile to get
this completed.

Just out of curiosity, what makes you think that SLI will be achieved in the next 6 months?

Any open seat at RAH belongs to the Midwest guys until the SLI is achieved. Anything else would be like recalling out of order.

I get it... recall 96 Republic pilots before the integration is complete so the $23/hr (cheap labor) guys are employeed before any of the expensive 25 year Midwest guys are recalled. If everything is handled correctly Republic maybe able to dodge all the expensive guys.

Rev BB is a smart guy and has had the help of Republics EXCO to reduce labor costs.

Word to the wise. BB will target anyone who raises labor* costs. Don't plan on a career at Republic.




* management does not see itself as labor

May is when it will go to binding arbitration. Thats the end of the process. There is no other way this SLI will be complete. Its in all parties best interest to do this very quickly, and that is what has been agreed too. This is not recalling out of order. Midwest guys are not on the list and therefore do not have recall rights yet. The LOA put forward was a good idea minus the DOH. This integration will not be completed using DOH, so why would anyone agree to an LOA based on such? By summer of 2010, the pilots of all the seniority lists can fight this out in the cockpit itself. Wonderful things to look forward too.

Knowing full well that you are only about 2 years removed from working for RAH, would you have quit on principal alone when the 190's showed up had you not gotten hired at NWA?

Doubtful.

That's a flight deck I wouldn't want to be a part of at all. Remember folks, be PROFESSIONAL at all times. No matter your differences, the cockpit is not the time nor place. But i'm sure that statement was made out of emotion and not context.

They need to staff an airline regardless of labor group disputes. BB will have to abide by the SLI just like the pilots. The end result will be the same regardless of the current recalls. Not really sure why im responding to you. You're just looking for a nonsensical argument.

Was a poor choice of words. It was actually a bad way of saying all pilots (hopefully) from all the groups will be one list and flying by the summer of 2010.

I'm looking to shed light on the joint actions of Rev BB and Republics EXCO.

No. I wouldn't have quit. I would still be on the 145 though, and I would bid to avoid flying all Midwest colored airplanes. That's not how it works over there though. The MKE and DEN 190 bases are some of the most senior in the system. I don't think you guys realize how bad of a place Republic is to work especially for 30 years.

This was BB thought before Republics EXCO delayed the Midwest pilot integration...




Republic buying Midwest Airlines
MINNEAPOLIS — Republic Airways Holdings said on Tuesday it will buy Midwest Airlines, the second time in two days it has aimed to rescue an ailing airline.

Midwest has been struggling with other airlines encroaching on its hub in Milwaukee, where it is based. AirTran, which tried to buy Midwest as recently as 2007, has an extensive schedule there, and Southwest has said it plans to add flights there later this year.
As Midwest has shrunk, it has hired Republic to do much of its flying.
Republic is buying the airline from majority owner TPG Capital. Republic said it expects the deal to close in one month to six weeks.
Indianapolis-based Republic said it will replace all of Midwest’s Boeing 717s with Embraer 190s once the separate unions that represent pilots and flight attendants merge their ranks, Republic Chairman and CEO Bryan Bedford said.

Some of you guys crack me up with your expectations on the integration and what is "fair". Unfortunately due to the integration not being complete over there, the YX/F9 guys on the street will have to wait a bit longer, which my heart does go out to everyone of you. There is no reason to try and stick any RAH pilots nose in this like they have done something wrong AGAIN! I sure never heard many people sticking up for America West guys that were hired pre merger getting sent to the street, meanwhile new hires on the East side were still active and flying. That to me sure does not seem fair as both airlines are one airline now right?!? My point is, this type of crap is going to happen when integrations are in process. ALOT of things are not going to be "fair", but stop crucifying the RAH guys... they agian have no say in this.

You really think it will go as scheduled? When was the last time anything went as scheduled? I fully expect within weeks the first request by one party for more time will be made. After that the NMB has a long history of delaying things and taking their sweet time. Remember these mediators and arbitrators have other real jobs and it seems like oodles of vacation time. You have 5 teams of attorneys who has lives and things happen to their families like deaths, accidents and illness. The federal gov't is involved and we know they can fcku up a 1 cow cattle drive. You can see that the schedule is set up to fail. I would wager the arbitrators ruling will come Oct 2010 at the earliest.

Looks to me as BB is using the delay to his advantage. If for some odd reason the sli goes down as planned it will be announced after all the recalls have happened. Most likely BB is planning the recalls so that there won't need to be more for some time even if it means being a little heavy on pilots. Correct me if I'm wrong but the current contract wouldn't allow a YX or F9 pilot to return even if they are senior on this new list until RAH recalls more pilots. So after the sli is done BB will avoid recalling as long as possible because the people coming back will be the experienced higher paid pilots. The only way around this is if the arbitrator forces the company to bring back pilots to reflect the master seniority list.

Den..., is most definately senior.., especially those who stayed after Frontier CNX our contract. MKE however is not. Most if not all FO's (including myself) were involuntarily displaced. Contrary to "public opinion".., no one I know is jumping for joy over the Midwest issue. But most folks seem to have their minds made up. This appears to be developing into the same ole circle jerk.., I've got work to do.., do please continue.

I could have sworn I read somewhere that F9 was going to be recalling to support the new 320s coming

You can use the PC corporate speak/euphemisms all you want. It is still a "cockpit"......always has been and always will be.

Wow shocking. SHOCKING! I spilled the hot chocolate all over the floor because of my shockness. I guess they don't have a choice, their seniority can hold it. :rolleyes:

Frontier is recalling pilots. One bid closed last week and one closed today.

This integration war will be worst than US Airways east/west.

Fixed it for ya! ;) I tend to agree with you though... this integration is gonna be interesting to say the least. The only real positive I can think of regarding the US/HP merge when compared to this one is that cockpits did not have to be shared between the two groups. Sounds to me that YX/RW guys will have no choice in the matter...

Your point being...?:confused:

Wonder how many?

YX and F9, want to clue some of us in on who those airlines are? Everyone freaks out on the 9E usage around here, it goes both ways.

That's not actually true and I don't know why people gloss over this as if it is fact. Those pilots were already out of a job in Nov. They were purchased before that happened, so instead of going the way of liquidation, their airline brand was bought and their jobs will eventually be offered back to them... at half the pay. ****ty it is. And probably a harder pill to swallow I understand. But I don't think RAH pilots should be treated unfairly because of it.

Where would Midwest Airlines be right now if Republic hadn't bought them? Was it pretty much guaranteed that they would be liquidated by now? Bankruptcy a possibility? Just wondering what you guys think would have happened.

I don't know, you tell me. You're the one that brought it up. I simply expressed disagreement with something you said that happens to be irrelevant to this thread.