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Originally Posted by ERJF15
(Post 980004)
That should just about do it for all the '06 new hires. On to the 07's :D
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
(Post 980041)
Ohhh yeah!!!! Then comes the 2008 guys without the 250PIC time that will not be able to upgrade so...I assume upgrades will down to 3 years by the end of 2011. =)
Per the Carpenter letter to the FAA dated January 25, 1999: FAA You ask whether the SIC can log PIC time for that portion of the flight in which he is the sole manipulator of the controls for the flight. The answer is yes. There is a distinction between actingas pilot in command and loggingof pilot in command time. "Pilot in command," as defined in FAR 1.1, "means the pilot responsible for the operation and safety of an aircraft during flight time." FAR 61.51(e) is a flight-time logging regulation, which only regulates the recording of PIC time used to meet the requirements toward a higher certificate, higher rating, or for recent flight experience: While it is not possible for two pilots to actas PIC simultaneously, it is possible for two pilots to logPIC flight time simultaneously. If the pilot is designated as PIC by the certificate holder, as required by FAR 121.385(c), that person is PIC for the entire flight, no matter who is actually manipulating the controls of the aircraft, because that pilot is responsible for the safety and operation of the aircraft. The pilot who is the sole manipulator of the controls of the aircraft for which the pilot is rated may also log that flight as PIC. It is important to remember that we are dealing with loggingof flight time only for purposes of FAR 61.51, where you are keeping a record to show recent flight experience or to show that you meet the requirements for a higher rating. Your question does not say if the SIC is fully qualified as a PIC, or only as an SIC. This is important because even though an SIC can log PIC time, that pilot may not be qualified to serveas PIC under Part 121. |
Originally Posted by ERJF15
(Post 980004)
That should just about do it for all the '06 new hires. On to the 07's :D
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Originally Posted by mrmak2
(Post 980070)
I am pretty sure there were more than 65 pilots hired between may and december of 2006. If the upgrade holds at 5 years everyone at eagle should be pretty happy.
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Originally Posted by Mason32
(Post 979924)
word is another 65 upgrades in the soon to be published vacany bid for you guys....
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Originally Posted by be76flyer
(Post 980061)
The great myth that the 07-08 low time hires can't upgrade.
Per the Carpenter letter to the FAA dated January 25, 1999: FAA |
Originally Posted by PilotJ3
(Post 980107)
You just forgot or not being aware that Eagle Poi said... "NO!" they will not upgrade since you cannot log PIC as an SIC in A. Eagle.
1)Call the Dallas FSDO they told me the POI can't make up FARs. 2)If the low time guys already have an ATP how will the POI know how much PIC time they have. No need for a logbook if it is just a type ride. 3)It was the old POI that said no. |
Originally Posted by be76flyer
(Post 980115)
Three things
1)Call the Dallas FSDO they told me the POI can't make up FARs. 2)If the low time guys already have an ATP how will the POI know how much PIC time they have. No need for a logbook if it is just a type ride. 3)It was the old POI that said no. |
Originally Posted by lavMan
(Post 980131)
I think they were refering to the select few that got hired with 250-300hrs a few years back Then the SIC time here doesn't mean squat, pretty much like most sic time.
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Originally Posted by raress
(Post 979965)
Yes, that is correct. One checkride bust. Commercial ASEL 8 years ago. I think it's safe to say most people have had a checkride failure some time during their training.
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