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What 10-29-2011 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 1076978)
your point is?

If you follow the last few pages RJ Pilot has been bashing on guys with low times. He just made a comment that is not worth the risk to fly with low time pilots. He doesn't want to be violated as an IOE check airman because of a low time pilot.


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1076892)
I gave up my IOE letter several yrs ago. Not worth the risk with these low timers in my opinion.

My point is that is a 2 way street. You could get in a less than favorable situation because of inexperience (IOE check airman/low time pilot) and also because of arrogance from an experienced pilot. Do you get my point?

buddies8 10-29-2011 01:51 PM

I disagree. IOE is not babysitting the newbie whether high time or low time. They are there to get company ops line experience. Radio work, flying the airplane and paying attention is both parties responsibility. Unfortunately the newbie low time requires more attention (from experience) and at times you as the IOE captain miss something. But I will say arrogance is not needed in the cockpit.

What 10-29-2011 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 1077019)
I disagree. IOE is not babysitting the newbie whether high time or low time. They are there to get company ops line experience. Radio work, flying the airplane and paying attention is both parties responsibility. Unfortunately the newbie low time requires more attention (from experience) and at times you as the IOE captain miss something. But I will say arrogance is not needed in the cockpit.

I agree with you, I am not sure where the disagreement is (it's me not you) :D We just have some people here who don't like low time pilots and forget that at one point in their life, someone was at the controls helping them fly an airplane.

PilotJ3 10-29-2011 02:29 PM

You can have 500 or 10,000 hrs and still fail a checkride.

But in reality, less experience before going into a 121 ops as PIC (135 cargo, CFI, banner towing, traffic, you name it) is less experience when you get into the captain seat.

You can get a FO job for any airline, but the experience in the real world alone it will worth the wait, because at the end in a emergency is not how much time you have is how you handle the situation. And the way to handle it is following company procedures and having some previous experience overall.

It's not the same having a simulated engine failure, than a real life engine failure or electrical problem. Plus you have to add how you feel at that moment, did you sleep well last night, is the leg #5 in that last day, etc.

Da Magic 10-31-2011 05:32 AM

Anyone remember when this lastest vacancy bid closes and whens it gonna run?

lavMan 10-31-2011 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by da magic (Post 1077688)
anyone remember when this lastest vacancy bid closes and whens it gonna run?

a vacancy bid is open eff <26 oct 2011¶

this bid will close at 2300ct on 10nov11 and is scheduled¶

to be run on 14nov11. A preliminary award may follow.¶

Da Magic 10-31-2011 09:25 AM

Thanks dude, crossing the fingers

theaviator 11-01-2011 10:39 AM

Does Anyone know how the unions base transfer program works? I've heard that you can find someone who wants your base and you can switch with them. Anyone have the details on how that works?

DSRoss996 11-01-2011 10:41 AM

Anybody know the dates of the November classes?

mrmak2 11-01-2011 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by Da Magic (Post 1077788)
Thanks dude, crossing the fingers


whats your DOH


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