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boilerflyer 10-24-2011 09:08 AM

The ATR always seem to go to the youngest in the class or would they have a chance of getting say a jet at ORD?

bcpilot 10-24-2011 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by boilerflyer (Post 1074222)
The ATR always seem to go to the youngest in the class or would they have a chance of getting say a jet at ORD?

So, with the new proposed TA (IF it gets passed), it will be impossible for pilots to go from ATR to Jet after 1 yr seat lock.....

MatixPilot 10-24-2011 09:33 AM

I sure hope not, my seat lock is up in march and they better let me off this thing.

odog1121 10-24-2011 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by bcpilot (Post 1074225)
So, with the new proposed TA (IF it gets passed), it will be impossible for pilots to go from ATR to Jet after 1 yr seat lock.....

Wrong, it is however questionable if the TA is passes whether a ATR captain will be able to transition into EMJ/CRJ CA or a EMJ CA into a CRJ CA since none of these moves will result in a higher pay scale if the seniority pay band concept is put into place.

airborne42 10-24-2011 09:58 AM

what are your chances of bidding into dfw right out of training? i saw that the 10/24 class got quite a few awarded, but is that the norm? or could it be totally different for the next class? and if you end up at another base, could you get into dfw anytime soon?

one more thing, all those numbers from the 10/24 class, are they mostly by choice of the people in class or just based on age wise seniority?

thanks for the input.

snippercr 10-24-2011 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by airborne42 (Post 1074238)
what are your chances of bidding into dfw right out of training? i saw that the 10/24 class got quite a few awarded, but is that the norm? or could it be totally different for the next class? and if you end up at another base, could you get into dfw anytime soon?

one more thing, all those numbers from the 10/24 class, are they mostly by choice of the people in class or just based on age wise seniority?

thanks for the input.

They change so much from class to class. You will find some classes have a lot of DFW, then no DFW. For instance, I wanted ORD and there was not a single ORD slot in my class. Yet before and after, there were about 5-10 a class. I got stuck with DFW. Also a lot of people in my class wanted MIA and there were none either. Yet the class after ours, MIA was the last thing to go (save ATR SJU)

Word of caution, don't believe people when they say "Oh you'll get that before you finish training." I was told that a lot by people at eagle (pilots) and still DFW. Not being sarcastic, just letting you know ahead of time.

Stryker 10-24-2011 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 1074245)

Word of caution, don't believe people when they say "Oh you'll get that before you finish training." I was told that a lot by people at eagle (pilots) and still DFW. Not being sarcastic, just letting you know ahead of time.

This is NOT the norm though. Everyone in my class got the base they preferred if they didnt get it originally, and will complete their base transfers next month. Even if you dont get it right away, you WILL get it eventually. If you cant get your base, pick equipment that is in the base you want, and you will be able to transfer at some point in the near future. You wont likely get "stuck".

airborne42 10-24-2011 10:52 AM

thanks a lot guys.!

so first off, DFW is just ERJ right? and does ERJ mean 135, 145 or just a specific one? asking in reference to what's in DFW? you could be flying any or just one out of that base?

sorry for my ignorance..!

are they running classes twice a month? and how many on average per class?

what's reserve like in dfw at the moment? for how long? and on average how many hours of flying?

RomeoSierra 10-24-2011 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 1074245)
Word of caution, don't believe people when they say "Oh you'll get that before you finish training." I was told that a lot by people at eagle (pilots) and still DFW. Not being sarcastic, just letting you know ahead of time.


There was some truth to "you could have what you want before training ended." Vacancy bids where coming out once a month earlier this year. There hasn't been one in a while that's why people are not saying that any more. Rumor is one is coming.

CrustyFE 10-24-2011 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by RomeoSierra (Post 1074295)
There was some truth to "you could have what you want before training ended." Vacancy bids where coming out once a month earlier this year. There hasn't been one in a while that's why people are not saying that any more. Rumor is one is coming.

Rumor I heard was that all flow throughs to AA are stopped until March 2012 because the AA training department is overrun from the hundreds of recent retirements. Most of the retirements came from the 777 including at least 25 IOE captains. All the vacancies resulted in a huge training bubble that prevents AA from taking in any new pilots.

I'm not sure of the accuracy of all this but it sounds pretty reasonable.


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