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Originally Posted by Flyboyrw
(Post 788252)
Except the "money loosing operations" they bought, weren't quite "money loosing."
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Originally Posted by withthatsaid182
(Post 788260)
Those 190s would do a lot better job than the 135's, that's for sure. If oil goes back up, which it might based on some predictions, the little jet market is in for a hurting.
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Originally Posted by minimwage4
(Post 788264)
You're right. They specialize in buying money loosing operations and turning them into money losing operations.
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Reduced but not defunct!
No one can tell this story better than us at XJT, and the bottom line is that we went from 274 jets in service with CAL to the current 204 due to reductions based on the "bean counters" idea of cost savings. Well, we've all seen how well that went with the other partners, yet that became the trend.
If AA shifts flying, there will still be markets better served by the 40-70 jets and props at Eagle, as opposed to the 190's and 320's. Like us, I think an IPO and later (3-4 years) a reduction in block hours and equipment in around the corner, depending on how the "code shares" work out. |
Originally Posted by G-Dog
(Post 788196)
I did not read the story, but was the agreement just about slots and not a codeshare?
It wouldnt let me cut 'n paste so here it is. American Airlines Bolsters Commitment to New York by Enhancing Network, Schedule, Facilities and Fleet at New York's Airports, and Introduces New Partnerships With JetBlue Airways and NYC & Company - Mar 31, 2010 |
Don't get to worked up over the jetblue deal. AA is gaining more departure slots (12) than it is giving up(8). And jetblue is not going to start flying any routes that it doesn't already operate. Plus, did you read the part about AA adding 7 new destinations with 23 additional flights? (to be flown by AE CRJ's) Looks like overall growth to me.
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We'll all be defunct in 2013.
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Originally Posted by withthatsaid182
(Post 788260)
Those 190s would do a lot better job than the 135's, that's for sure. If oil goes back up, which it might based on some predictions, the little jet market is in for a hurting.
Is it even worth AMR replacing the 135/140 fleet? Wouldn't it be cheaper to just throw JB 190's on the routes? I think Eagle will inevitably shrink because it's just so big for a "regional". I hope this doesn't hurt Eagles existence after 2012 but it is peculiar that this deal springs up 2 years before contract time and after a failed divesture of AE. This whole thing is getting really hyped up though. Of course I'm downplaying it so I can sleep tonight :) It will be a slow and gradual process, but it seems AMR might be better off just having another carrier do the 190 flying and removing the 135's and even some S-80's. It would make sense for the Northeast. Since the APA is unwilling to consider any compromises or even entertain VIABLE options regarding scope, it seems that AMR will just institue a plan slowly dissolving AA flying using contractually allowed methods instead of considering in-house options that would involve AA expansion. There's always more then one way for mangement to skin a cat and sometimes the cat doesn't know he's being skinned because it happens slowly. Meanwhile, the litterbox at AA labor-wise continues to overflow. Management can remain afar, but employees must wallow in the ever increase mound of brown. |
Originally Posted by proav8r
(Post 788347)
We'll all be defunct in 2013.
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Originally Posted by thevagabond
(Post 788519)
Management at the majors will never forget the Comair strike in my humble opinion.
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