Regionals feeding Majors
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Regionals feeding Majors
I'm wondering if anyone can tell me how the whole process of going from a regional to an affiliated major (Horizon/Alaska for example) works. Does a company like Alaska give preferance to Horizon pilots when granting interviews? Does any seniority transfer across when one makes that jump?
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Originally Posted by Tanker-driver
I'm wondering if anyone can tell me how the whole process of going from a regional to an affiliated major (Horizon/Alaska for example) works. Does a company like Alaska give preferance to Horizon pilots when granting interviews? Does any seniority transfer across when one makes that jump?
#3
Unfortunately, in todays climate many major pilots develop an adverserial attitude towards their own regional providers and regional pilots, and this often carries over into the hiring realm. Sometimes you are better off NOT having flown for that carrier's regionals.
#4
Technically we still have a valid flowthrough agreement here at Eagle. BUT, even the people here now who already have numbers with AA might never get there. So don't come to Eagle thinking you will ever flow through. We have about 400 AA guys who flowed backwards from AA to Eagle and became Captains. We also have about 500 AE guys who already have been issued AA seniority numbers. So, a little more than 50% of our current CAs here have AA numbers. FWIW.
Also, someone mentioned that it would be better if you DIDNT work for the company to get hired by a major. Figure if you are a RJ CA and then flowthrough to the major, they have to train you to fly the 737/MD80, they also have to upgrade a RJ FO to CA, they also have to hire a new RJ FO off the street. So thats 3 training events, just to get 1 guy over to the mainline. Doesn't make business sense.
Also, someone mentioned that it would be better if you DIDNT work for the company to get hired by a major. Figure if you are a RJ CA and then flowthrough to the major, they have to train you to fly the 737/MD80, they also have to upgrade a RJ FO to CA, they also have to hire a new RJ FO off the street. So thats 3 training events, just to get 1 guy over to the mainline. Doesn't make business sense.
Last edited by Flyby1206; 07-28-2006 at 07:27 PM.
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
Technically we still have a valid flowthrough agreement here at Eagle. BUT, even the people here now who already have numbers with AA might never get there. So don't come to Eagle thinking you will ever flow through. We have about 400 AA guys who flowed backwards from AA to Eagle and became Captains. We also have about 500 AE guys who already have been issued AA seniority numbers. So, a little more than 50% of our current CAs here have AA numbers. FWIW.
Also, someone mentioned that it would be better if you DIDNT work for the company to get hired by a major. Figure if you are a RJ CA and then flowthrough to the major, they have to train you to fly the 737/MD80, they also have to upgrade a RJ FO to CA, they also have to hire a new RJ FO off the street. So thats 3 training events, just to get 1 guy over to the mainline. Doesn't make business sense.
Also, someone mentioned that it would be better if you DIDNT work for the company to get hired by a major. Figure if you are a RJ CA and then flowthrough to the major, they have to train you to fly the 737/MD80, they also have to upgrade a RJ FO to CA, they also have to hire a new RJ FO off the street. So thats 3 training events, just to get 1 guy over to the mainline. Doesn't make business sense.
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Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer
Don't forget the cost of interviewing, back-ground checks, etc...
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FWIW, from what I've heard and seen Legacies that have wholly owned carriers tend to NOT hire form those carriers. Don't count on any type of "flowthrough" agreement (which will probably never happen again in the industry) because they don't work.
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Alaska does, allegedly, give interview preference to Horizon pilots. There's really no way I know of to tell if they actually do or not. They have historically taken quite a number of our guys, but again, I don't have any statisitics on the percentage versus the industry at large.
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