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NoHandHold 06-09-2010 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by ASAnotASAP (Post 823850)

You missed the point of me asking that....but forget it.

FL410 06-09-2010 11:07 AM

No letter of intent has been signed but if it does go through then 2 RJ's arrive in July then 2 more in the middle of August....

And next is the continued demise of horizon air. Soon there will be no planes left at all at Horizon, just people that don't know what they are doing.

surreal1221 06-09-2010 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by afterburn81 (Post 823710)
Anyone have any idea when these 42 pilots are scheduled to be trained and back on line? Makes no sense to me with the position notice showing the vacancy for 10 CA and 10 FO on the 700/900 and 4 total vacancies for the 200 for a total of 24 vacancies system wide. Not sure if anyone has any details as to when the 4 aircraft will be added to the schedule. They never really said anything with certainty.

And it's actually only a total of 40 pilots coming back right now.

56 notices sent out 16 bypassed.

40.

Otherwise the company might actually have to spend some extra money on training two of the original Acey 80 furloughees by running them through the 18+ month inactive training pipeline - which is most costly (obviously) than the guys who have been lucky enough to only be gone for less than 12 months.

Gunga Galunga 06-09-2010 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by surreal1221 (Post 823899)
And it's actually only a total of 40 pilots coming back right now.

56 notices sent out 16 bypassed.

40.

Otherwise the company might actually have to spend some extra money on training two of the original Acey 80 furloughees by running them through the 18+ month inactive training pipeline - which is most costly (obviously) than the guys who have been lucky enough to only be gone for less than 12 months.

Does any know the status of the 2 slots not filled? I have not seen one word mentioned on Ourasa, but that's not saying much considering furloughs have extremely limited access. As far as the extra cost in training, according to conference call information: if you're out <12 months, you'll need - 3 days of ground school, 1 sim, 1 pc, OE as required. If you're out 12-18months, you'll need 2 days of ground, 4 days of gen ops, 2 sims, 1 pc, 1 qloft and 25 hours of OE. >18 months, welcome back to new hire training.

It would seem foolish of the company not to recall the remaining few slots needed, considering even though they need more than the 1st group, it is still considerably less than what will be needed after 08/09/2010

resetjet 06-09-2010 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by Gunga Galunga (Post 823936)
Does any know the status of the 2 slots not filled? I have not seen one word mentioned on Ourasa, but that's not saying much considering furloughs have extremely limited access. As far as the extra cost in training, according to conference call information: if you're out <12 months, you'll need - 3 days of ground school, 1 sim, 1 pc, OE as required. If you're out 12-18months, you'll need 2 days of ground, 4 days of gen ops, 2 sims, 1 pc, 1 qloft and 25 hours of OE. >18 months, welcome back to new hire training.

It would seem foolish of the company not to recall the remaining few slots needed, considering even though they need more than the 1st group, it is still considerably less than what will be needed after 08/09/2010

No one seems to be saying much.

On a side note: I am a little curious as to how someone has already managed to finish the training considering class started today

gtechpilot 06-09-2010 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by resetjet (Post 823945)
No one seems to be saying much.

On a side note: I am a little curious as to how someone has already managed to finish the training considering class started today

One of the recalls was 'hired' just after being furloughed as a MX pilot - a position he held prior to the furlough anyway. Is that who you meant?

resetjet 06-09-2010 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by gtechpilot (Post 823949)
One of the recalls was 'hired' just after being furloughed as a MX pilot - a position he held prior to the furlough anyway. Is that who you meant?

Yep. He was "hired" by mx PRE-furlough. I know him and he couldn't be a nicer guy. I just don't understand why he is on the furlough list when he wasn't a line pilot. How was he technically furloughed in the first place? I'm not trying to put his character into question, I just don't understand the process and I also wonder if it may impede another pilots recall.

hemaybedid 06-09-2010 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by Gunga Galunga (Post 823936)
Does any know the status of the 2 slots not filled? I have not seen one word mentioned on Ourasa, but that's not saying much considering furloughs have extremely limited access. As far as the extra cost in training, according to conference call information: if you're out <12 months, you'll need - 3 days of ground school, 1 sim, 1 pc, OE as required. If you're out 12-18months, you'll need 2 days of ground, 4 days of gen ops, 2 sims, 1 pc, 1 qloft and 25 hours of OE. >18 months, welcome back to new hire training.

It would seem foolish of the company not to recall the remaining few slots needed, considering even though they need more than the 1st group, it is still considerably less than what will be needed after 08/09/2010

Hey Gunga,

I hadn't heard those numbers on training previously, so thanks for posting. I was thinking though, that those time periods are probably based off of the pilot's last pc. I wouldn't think that the feds would care how long you've been on furlough necessarily. More so how long past your pc due month that you went without training. I'd be interested to see if my theory is correct.

resetjet 06-09-2010 02:14 PM

It's been over a year since my last PC, it's based on furlough date. Hope that helps!

USMC3197 06-09-2010 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by hemaybedid (Post 823955)
Hey Gunga,

I hadn't heard those numbers on training previously, so thanks for posting. I was thinking though, that those time periods are probably based off of the pilot's last pc. I wouldn't think that the feds would care how long you've been on furlough necessarily. More so how long past your pc due month that you went without training. I'd be interested to see if my theory is correct.

Those numbers came out on the conference call I think it was or was it an ALPA e-mail. I forgot.


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