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Old 06-08-2010 | 01:39 PM
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You get two days of ground school a year? At Delta, we get zero. Its all done on CD and then you go to the school house for two days of sim work. IMO we've gone to far to the cheap end of the training spectrum.
I put a sticker on the door at the training dept changing thier name to the testing dept. I hear stories about companies having 2 weeks of training crammed into 4 weeks. I also hear stories about people getting more than 10 days off a month....
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Old 06-08-2010 | 03:31 PM
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I do not believe a thing that the RAA say when it comes to safety
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Old 06-08-2010 | 05:48 PM
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I do not believe a thing that the RAA say when it comes to safety
Why not? Safety is their number 1 Priority, just ask them they'll tell you. It's right behind covering their collective Hindquarters, and Profits and whatever else might be of operational concern to their members, but safety is number one just ask them.
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Old 06-08-2010 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CrippleHawk
I do not believe a thing that the RAA say when it comes to safety
CrippleHawk,

Exactly! It's interesting to see the industry "leaders" reveal their intentions.

"RAA’s Strategic Safety Initiative Recommendations

Create a single database of pilot records
Conduct random fatigue tests
Examine commuting
Extend background-check timeframe
Audit cockpit voice recordings
Improve tracking and analysis of check rides"


The very people who created the "race-to-the-bottom" are proposing the solution to their problem is blaming the employees.

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Old 06-08-2010 | 05:54 PM
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CrippleHawk,

Exactly! It's interesting to see the industry "leaders" reveal their intentions.

RAA’s Strategic Safety Initiative Recommendations
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Create a single database of pilot records


Conduct random fatigue tests


Examine commuting


Extend background-check timeframe


Audit cockpit voice recordingsImprove tracking and analysis of check rides
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YIKES! That sounds like a management wet dream and NO WAY will that stuff improve safety. Lets all just knee jerk reaction to the last accident shall we? And what's a random fatigue test??? "Are you tired today?" Yes. Test over.
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Old 06-08-2010 | 06:07 PM
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Example of random fatigue test.

Tester
"are you tired?"
Pilot
"no"

::this concludes the test::
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Old 06-08-2010 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by winglet
CrippleHawk,

Exactly! It's interesting to see the industry "leaders" reveal their intentions.

"RAA’s Strategic Safety Initiative Recommendations

Create a single database of pilot records
Conduct random fatigue tests
Examine commuting
Extend background-check timeframe
Audit cockpit voice recordings
Improve tracking and analysis of check rides"

The very people who created the "race-to-the-bottom" are proposing the solution to their problem is blaming the employees.

winglet

We have been doing alot of FDR downloads recently
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Old 06-10-2010 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by CrippleHawk
We have been doing alot of FDR downloads recently
Who is we? And for what purpose?
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Old 06-10-2010 | 09:55 AM
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Dawn for management and shareholders. Dusk for Pilots, FA's, rampers, dx'ers etc..
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Old 06-10-2010 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
Who is we? And for what purpose?

I mean us A&P mechanic (I am a MAG mechanic out a Dulles). This started a few months after the Colgan 3407. They are doing it in the name of safety or so they say. (they claim they want to see how the a/cs are being treated by pilots etc etc etc.)

But I feel that MGMT is just trying to screw with their employess from pilots to MX. And they are trying to find anything to get rid of them. MY company fired 5 people for simple mistakes in paperwork (keep in mind we are understaffed for the work we get, so it's bound to happen).....................and it'sjust not MAG that does this.
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