HAHA! You sir, just made my day! I do feel a little bad for all the guys at Great Lakes...but I guess they chose to work there.

Another part of my experience was local union president. Thanks for the info.

Edit for tiny bragging rights: twice voted in local union president, and once voted to SAPA at SkyWest (I won by one vote).

Sounds like a good idea...until the pilot has a heart attack and dies somewhere over the Atlantic en route to the US from Amsterdam, but come on...what are the chances of that happening? I mean, that would never happen, right??? Oh wait, crap.

Well you sure don't post like it brother.

Fly safe,

goaround

I'm not advocating those positions. I'm stating them as (my view) of fact. Yes, they should be paid more. That's obvious. But thinking some regional will "step up" and hand over more money.... ain't gunna happen.

Most likely the next airline to lose their partner contracts. Cheap is in - especially when you're a subcontractor. Don't ever forget that you don't actually work for the livery on your tail.

Air Canada JAZZ pilots. They have and continue to be the leaders in pay overall in North America.

I don't see why 1500hrs is much of an issue. I was right around 2,000hrs or so when I was hired and wasn't abnormal at all. Given that no one has hired for a few years I'm betting there are a lot of 1500hr+ guys out there.

My opinion, this law won't change anything in the near term and only add 6-12 months on the long term.

What if management said, "fine, we'll raise all FO pay by 50%." What are the chances of our union saying, "we will not accept the FO raises unless you can do the same for the Capt rates."

It's happened in the past with regards to management wanted to give sign on bonuses to new hires.

1500 hour rule...
 

I'm not so sure the 1500 hour rule is going to change much of anything. Two days ago, I spoke to the director of the "fast track", 300-hour wonder school I went to. He told me that as is stands now with the information that's out there, he'll still be able to operate as a 300-hour program. I suspect the hacks in DC will put in some exclusions and waivers that will knock a lot of teeth out of the rule. But hey, who knows for sure, right?