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Originally Posted by dojetdriver (Post 846883)

Did they EVER have it on their cert?

It was my understanding that during the last attempt, management/training center types were put in place to spool it up but in ended up DOA.

I think you're right. I don't believe we have the 145 on the cert at all.

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Originally Posted by nigelcobalt (Post 846890)

It will pass next time. The last vote had the worst possible timing ever. There were almost 600 pilots still on probation (1st year) that were intimidated by the company to even vote. We all remember being a newhire. You just want to stay under the radar, and pass all your training, and not cause any trouble. I personally called many of my friends who were new at the time, and even though they thought a union was a good idea, they were afraid of voting. People were saying that management had access to the votes, and crap like that, and so new hires were scared of being fired if they voted yes. Now fast forward a couple years to the present day: those same people have been on reserve for over 2 years, and they are fed up with all the bs. Huge cuts in benefits left and right. When will the bleeding stop? Not in the near future anyway. Legally, there is nothing to stop it, yet.

I personally hope xjt does well. They are a quality regional, and if they fail, some trashy regional will take over and lower the bar.

[edit: remove flamebait] Nobody was afraid of voting for alpa. Those newhires all came from alpa airlines and didn't want to deal the corruption from that horrible organization. [edit: remove flamebait] Most of those who voted for alpa have since left skywest so I expect a vote to be even less than the ones before. We havn't lost any benefits either.

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Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 846899)

[edit: remove flamebait] like I said, when the vote was going on, I did talk to a lot of my friends that were new. That was the reason they gave. I believe it too. As far as not loosing any benefits, are you kidding me? Let me just name a couple MAJOR ones:

1) employee stock purchase program
2) health insurance

Now, you could argue that we haven't lost those, because they are still available, however the extent that they benefit the employee group is SUBSTANTIALLY less that they were in their previous state. Can you really argue those two points? I'm not trying to argue with you. You can think the way you want. [edit: remove flamebait] Just trying to figure out why on earth you could think the way you do.

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Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 846899)

Slap, its posts like this that make me 80% sure you aren't serious. I'm as pro SkyWest as any, but to say that we haven't lost any bennies....perhaps the better term would be our existing benefits are being actively eroded. Fewer health care options, paying more for our travel privileges, many pay interpretations that aren't being ruled in our favor, etc. I still think its a good company, but the farther Uncle Jerry gets from the day to day decisions, the less employee-oriented this company becomes.

As for the XJT rumor, I'm not sure the existing facts line up with this one. Namely, why would SkyWest be thinking about hiring if they were planning to merge with another airline? Usually there is overlap, especially with a company that has guys on furlough. Ultimately, I just can't believe an airline of ExpressJet's caliber will be as destitute as some believe. Its a good operation and I have to think that if some of the awful airlines have survived, why would a good one fall by the wayside?

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Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 846899)

Chip? Chip, is that you?

Boys and girls... can we not insult each other? Debate the issues.

Gracias,

Tony

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Originally Posted by duvie (Post 846904)

.... Ultimately, I just can't believe an airline of ExpressJet's caliber will be as destitute as some believe. Its a good operation and I have to think that if some of the awful airlines have survived, why would a good one fall by the wayside?

I guarantee you that we have problems. Having a good operation is one thing but we signed a deal with CAL that isnt profitable for us. We either need to grow or get bought. The status quo is eating into our cash. We arent near bankruptcy but we could be if we have a few more bad quarters.

All will be revealed August 5th.

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Originally Posted by Terrain Inop (Post 846992)

All will be revealed August 5th.

Are you referring to skw quarterly earnings call? I usually don't give these type of rumors much weight, but I admit, I'm getting a little inpatient to hear the call. Lets just hope that when all is revealed, it isn't the same as always. We could all use some forward progress, or at least hope of it.

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Originally Posted by Terrain Inop (Post 846992)

All will be revealed August 5th.

It's actually Wednesday, August 4th, 11am EST. I think there are many of us at XJT that are interested to hear this one.