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Clocks 07-27-2010 12:31 PM

SKYW to buy XJT rumor?
 
Whats the deal with this rumor? Seems to be heating up in a few different places? I haven't read/heard anything remotely reliable yet though.

Slaphappy 07-27-2010 12:32 PM

only thing i've heard is skywest might be getting some mesa 900's and 700's.

goaround2000 07-27-2010 12:50 PM

It is red hot all over the place here at XJT. They are welcome to buy us, but Jerry will run into the same wall he ran into last time with us, it is contractual, that the lists have to be merged in the event of a merger or buyout, simple as that. So if they feel like dancing, by all means.

meyers9163 07-27-2010 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 846659)
only thing i've heard is skywest might be getting some mesa 900's and 700's.

Sweet! They get planes? And do what with them? Also outside of liquidation, Mesas scope would mean you gain their pilots.... I'm almost sure even if it were sold as, "assets." Unlike that DCI mess Skywest is part of you would have some pilots coming with planes it would seem... Plus Mesa will emerge from Chap 11 soon! You are kidding yourself to think other wise!

Sewer Pickle 07-27-2010 02:22 PM

Heck, we haven't even heard from our NEW CEO since he started here in the spring. XJT, as of now seems to be driving 65mph in second gear with no one at the wheel. Burned out work groups which breeds low moral. A management that seem to be putting the finishing touches on their own beautiful golden parachute packages and no real info on our future. It has been one of the quietest summers, communication wise, that I can ever remember here.

RightSeatDude 07-27-2010 03:05 PM

Woo hoo!
 
Yeah, another airline rumor. We haven't had enough of them lately!

Sorry guys, it's all meant in good cheer.

If it goes down, I hope all concern come out as well as possible.

cybourg10 07-27-2010 04:36 PM

Heard it from both my buddy at SKW and ASA that they will merge the three groups into large airline with one list. SKW buddy says their management really does not care about having ALPA anymore like they used to. XJT scope still stands and it seems SKW may want to give it another go. We'll see if its true.

Does SKW still have the E145 on their certificate?

nigelcobalt 07-27-2010 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by cybourg10 (Post 846799)
Heard it from both my buddy at SKW and ASA that they will merge the three groups into large airline with one list. SKW buddy says their management really does not care about having ALPA anymore like they used to. XJT scope still stands and it seems SKW may want to give it another go. We'll see if its true.

Does SKW still have the E145 on their certificate?

I would love for this to happen, but I just don't see why management would want almost (what 8,000 plus pilots?) unified and ready to take what we can from mgt's greedy hands.

As far as alpa on property, the last vote management fought awful hard against it. Not sure why they would have changed their mind now.

iPilot 07-27-2010 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by nigelcobalt (Post 846801)
As far as alpa on property, the last vote management fought awful hard against it. Not sure why they would have changed their mind now.

The rules changed this year that will basically ensure the next vote will pass. IIRC, before any non-vote was considered a NO where now it's not counted at all.

Considering that, then maybe SKW (seeing the inevitable coming) would just take ExpressJet for pennies on the dollar of what they offered the first time, and just let the union take over anyway. The only big problem is that they would lose their ability to whipsaw ASA with SKW pilots as everyone would be under one roof.

On the other hand, that kind of economy of scale would create massive savings and make them a force to be reckoned with when competing for contracts. Heck, with that many planes and pilots they could pull a Republic and go their own way. XJT Branded II? :eek:

Slaphappy 07-27-2010 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by iPilot (Post 846808)
The rules changed this year that will basically ensure the next vote will pass. IIRC, before any non-vote was considered a NO where now it's not counted at all.

Considering that, then maybe SKW (seeing the inevitable coming) would just take ExpressJet for pennies on the dollar of what they offered the first time, and just let the union take over anyway. The only big problem is that they would lose their ability to whipsaw ASA with SKW pilots as everyone would be under one roof.

On the other hand, that kind of economy of scale would create massive savings and make them a force to be reckoned with when competing for contracts. Heck, with that many planes and pilots they could pull a Republic and go their own way. XJT Branded II? :eek:

doubt it, the last vote only got 35% yes votes. Nobody here wants alpa, and skywest isn't going to waste their time with xjt again. The only way I see it happeneing is XJT going chpt 11. getting their pilot contract thrown out. I bet this will be the case, xjt is on the verge anyway. I bet they convince the right people that chpt 11 is the best way to fix xjt.


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