Its being honored with merger of xjt and asa since asa is buying xjt. Skywest has no connection in this what so ever and It won't hold up in court. Berkshire Hathaway is a perfect example, they own many other companies that buy and sell other companies under them. This is no different, the precedent has been set and a judge will look at it.

Mesa and Freedom were different than this as well as Tsa and gojet. Skywest has been around the longest and hasn’t been used to whipsaw anyone.

Skywest has no connection in this what so ever...

Skywest...hasn't been used to whipsaw anyone.

Just to let you know, saying this enough times doesn't make it true. Just saying...

I asked you before when skywest whipsawed anyone and you have yet to answer just the usual alpo talking points. Yet asa has grown more since the buyout than skywest has.

Well, I've pointed it out numerous times but I will quote an ASA pilot who explains it better than I.

"When we (ASA) were in negotiations, they dangled 15 CR9's to make us sign a concessionary contract. This was about Feb of 2006. When the union wouldn't bite, less than two weeks after the memo announcing the aircraft, they told us SKW would be getting all of them. We bit our lips and held fast. SKW did get those aircraft. Some discussion over whether we were ever really going to get them to begin with. But all they had to do was change the registrations, and they did.

Later, they threatened us with the infamous option 4 which was they would transfer all our aircraft to SKW and we would disappear. They actually did start this. When we closed SLC, they were slated to keep 13 of our CR7's. Due to costs, down time associated with transferring the mx program from one certificate to the other, they only kept 3."

And now I'll repost what I've already posted earlier.

Anyways, XJT has already been whipsawd by CAL with the helps of JA. That is why we were decimated. CAL told our CEO to either give them the cpa SKW had negotiated or get the 12 months notice. The cpa SKW negotiated with CAL not only included synergy cost savings but also took into consideration a 16% paycut JA wanted to give us in order to bring us into parity with SKW pilot compensation so that we can be cost competative when CAL put all 205 A/C up for bid again in 12 months. JA said himself his intention was to put up three bids for those 205 A/C. One from XJT, one from ASA, and one from SKW...but it was up to us if we wanted to be cost competitive. That on top of the fact that he was planning on taking 35 of XJT A/C and transferring them to SKW for their pilots to fly while furloughing 700 of ours and giving them preferential interviews at SKW.

The answer was provided, but you ignored it:

Why not start with the first CRJ 900s Skywest, Inc was allocated from Delta. Those were originally slated for ASA when Skywest, Inc made the purchase. Jerry told our pilot group point blank that if we did not give in on instructor pay he would award them to Skywest Airlines instead. We didn't give in and we didn't get the 900s. Is that not whipsaw?

While we voted on and got PBS, there was always the threat that if we did not reduce our costs compared to other pilot groups, we would not grow. Skywest Airlines has one of the lowest cost pilot groups out there and you can bet that Skywest, Inc is not going to miss out on an opportunity to grow!

What about health care? While I'm a fan of HSAs, they aren't for everyone and Skywest Inc will really push hard for a change in the next contract pointing to the fact that you did not have a choice.

That's three good examples without really having to think about it!!

ASA hasn't gained any aircraft from this - Skywest, Inc is simply being business savvy and making good deals to utilize existing assets. If you factor in the ATRs that ASA lost, we're at a net of 8 airplanes by your numbers! Over the same time period, Skywest was allocated 25 700s and 900s that Delta had originally allocated for ASA.

Again, I think you have a very skewed view of whipsaw. It's a lot easier to say there's no such thing when you are the tool being used.

They can just raid the MEC's LVBT/MLD account.

That's the "Las Vegas Bar Tab/Midget Lap Dance" account. I'm sure there's plenty of funds available there.:p

ALPA's rules prohibit using union attorneys or union funds for a merger. Too easy for the union to get sued if you don't like the result. If you want a lawyer, you have to hire one and pass an assessment among your pilot group to pay for it.

ASA MEC has retained the firm that handled the NWA merger for Delta.

The midget leprechaun on the bar was a real class act... :rolleyes:

And speaking of Vegas, my sources tell me a sit down was had yesterday between the ALPA chairmen, Brad Holt, and Jerry Atkin in LAS to discuss this issue.

What would happen if Jerry threw in the towel and agreed to a three way, but with concessions in return? Hmmm.

Dang, everyone has pointed out several examples and you still don't
Understand that Skywest has, indeed, whipsawed ASA v Skywest?
Maybe you should learn a little history
Before you talk of things you know nothing about.