Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 885754)

I was referring to your joke.

Originally Posted by higney85 (Post 885758)

I figured, just making sure. I'm not the brightest bulb in the pack...

Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 885733)

Exactly.

I'm just trying to point out the flaw in the pure relative seniority method, and if someone could give me the seniority number of a Colgan guy hired in oct of 2003, I'll show you the flaw in the pure DOH method.

We all would like to see where we fall in this 3 headed monster, and thinking your seniority will be based off purely relative is going to make alot of people sorely disappointed.

If you have put in many many years into a crap company like Pinnacle, Mesaba, or Colgan then you should have that factored into something as important as your seniority number.

Originally Posted by ChipChelios (Post 885824)

There are only a hand full of 03's at Colgan and they are in the top 35 people in the company. 07's are in the top 50%. '08 hires are upgrading now.

...and if this thing messes up my master plan to upgrade soon I'm gonna say some bad words, crack some heads and do some bodily harm. (for those with no sense of humor, j/k)

Originally Posted by lolwut (Post 885842)

It sure would help to have some actual information here.

Can anyone provide a breakdown for the 3 companies for number of pilots in each seat/airplane?

Pinnacle CRJ-200 / -900 CA / FO
Colgan Q400 / Saab CA / FO
Mesaba CRJ-200 / -900 / Saab CA / FO

Additionally, anyone able to provide the DOH of pilots on each list that are...
0% (#1 guy) Was hired in 92' it is skewed because number 3 is a 97' hire

25% mid to late 05' hire
50% mid to approaching late 07' hire
75% mid 08' hire
100% (bottom active guy) classes currently running

Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 885606)

The whole problem with this discussion is the disparity with DOH on each list.

If you look at the bottom 50% of each list they are similar DOH wise and percentage wise, but the top 50% of each list makes it a little different.

A 7 year 9E guy sits at 21% and at Mesaba 38% (if someone can give me the seniority number of a 7 year (as of this month) Colgan guy, I'll put their percentage here)

If you take that and apply it to the 3000 pilot group, the 9E guy is at 630 and the XJ guy at 1140, that's a difference of 510 numbers and they were hired at the same time. (I would love to add Colgan to this also)

Originally Posted by xj200capt (Post 885918)

I am a 7 year Mesaba guy. I sit in the 430's

Originally Posted by AxialFlow (Post 880175)

Are you going to hang this story over the collective head of the Mesaba pilots as well? Pinnacle Corporation...not Pinnacle Airlines, purchased Colgan. Sorry your pilot group wasn't involved in the decision. Neither were we.