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Originally Posted by alfaromeo
(Post 872616)
JCBA = Joint Collective Bargaining Agreement (the combined contract)
TA = Tentative Agreement (when the negotiating committee reaches a deal with management but it has not been ratified by the MEC and pilots) MEC = Master Executive Council (the ruling body of the airline's union) PCL = Pinnacle CJC = Colgan MSA = Mesaba Is that what you were looking for? thank you!! |
Originally Posted by alfaromeo
(Post 872616)
JCBA = Joint Collective Bargaining Agreement (the combined contract)
TA = Tentative Agreement (when the negotiating committee reaches a deal with management but it has not been ratified by the MEC and pilots) MEC = Master Executive Council (the ruling body of the airline's union) PCL = Pinnacle CJC = Colgan MSA = Mesaba Is that what you were looking for? JMEC= Joint Master Executive Council JNC= Joint negotiating committee |
Originally Posted by higney85
(Post 872632)
A couple more...
JMEC= Joint Master Executive Council JNC= Joint negotiating committee |
Originally Posted by FSUpilot
(Post 872650)
It took me a long while of just browsing around these boards to figure all the acronyms out. I am still trying to learn. I wish someone would have posted this stuff awhile back.:D
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Doing nothing, Colgan will have the Mesaba contract. Management knew that when they bought Mesaba, so it is up to US to demand MORE!
It ain't gonna be easy, but I will NOT vote for anything less than the best of Pinnacle and Mesaba PLUS! Pinnacle CORP has the biggest turbo prop fleet (twice as many as Horizon). Not to ignore the jets, but props are THE MOST EFFICIENT at puddle jumping. There is NO other regional that has the prop capacity to replace us. For ONCE, we prop guys have the trump cards. We on the prop side can and must stand firm and force a GOOD contract... FOR ALL AIRCRAFT! If we don't, then I never want to hear any b!tching about work rules, pay, or scheduling: we hold our destiny. |
Mesaba pilots are basically giving up their section 6 negotiations for this JCBA. So, this JCBA agreement needs to be as good or better than what Mesaba could get in section 6 negotiations on their own. Otherwise why not vote it down and wait for section 6 in a year and get something better? Everyone keep that in mind. This should be the MINIMUM. Anything less is an increase for Pinnacle/Colgan and at the expense of essentially another concessionary contract for Mesaba. Good luck to all our union leaders and my hope is that we can all stay unified.
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Originally Posted by vtx531
(Post 872891)
Mesaba pilots are basically giving up their section 6 negotiations for this JCBA. So, this JCBA agreement needs to be as good or better than what Mesaba could get in section 6 negotiations on their own. Otherwise why not vote it down and wait for section 6 in a year and get something better? Everyone keep that in mind. This should be the MINIMUM. Anything less is an increase for Pinnacle/Colgan and at the expense of essentially another concessionary contract for Mesaba. Good luck to all our union leaders and my hope is that we can all stay unified.
You could be 7 years from a contract. |
Originally Posted by DMEarc
(Post 873002)
You Mesaba pilots need to remember you're negotiating with PNCL now, NOT sensible managers.
You could be 7 years from a contract. We would love to drag the XJ negotiations out for 7 years that be more than a 10% raise before a new contract is even signed. The longer negotiations get dragged out at XJ, the higher our hourly rates go. |
Originally Posted by DMEarc
(Post 873002)
You Mesaba pilots need to remember you're negotiating with PNCL now, NOT sensible managers.
You could be 7 years from a contract. |
Originally Posted by DMEarc
(Post 873002)
You Mesaba pilots need to remember you're negotiating with PNCL now, NOT sensible managers.
You could be 7 years from a contract. |
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