Without fences, CJC F/Os stand to get hosed.
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Originally Posted by AxialFlow
(Post 879760)
Without fences, CJC F/Os stand to get hosed.
I'm not trying to say anything bad about Colgan guys, I'm just trying to make sure everyone remembers what happened here. Colgan pilots lucked out a whole lot in this deal and those FOs who will be "hosed" probably wouldn't even have a job there in the first place if it weren't for Pinnacle. They're not getting "hosed" - their truly unnaturally high rate of seniority increase is simply going to be brought to more industry average levels. Pinnacle pilots' hard work bought another airline and then bought that airline dozens of airplanes without getting a single upgrade or newhire out of them for Pinnacle. Now they stand to see these pilots, whos jobs they created, be put ahead of them on the combined seniority list. Pinnacle pilots are the ones who got hosed. |
Hey fellas, if you really think that by 11/15/10 we're all gonna have one big nice shiney new industry leading contract, then I predict we're all gonna be hosed together.
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The Colgan guys are not getting hosed at all...they stand to do pretty well with a new contract and probably in the SLI mix...I wouldn't be asking for too much here...
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so are we saying that a pncl or mesaba pilot was somehow prohibited from applying to Colgan instead of pncl or mesaba?
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Originally Posted by mooney
(Post 879740)
Just to add to the rumor mill since I usually don't, but that's what one senior management guy told me he'd like to see. Of course he also isn't "directly" involved in negotiations. But as higney says don't believe anything till you see a Pinnacle FO sitting in the left seat of a Dash..
In the interest of getting along, I'd like to ask the Pinnacle pilots to stop talking smack about Colgan pilots flying the Q with their pay-raise! Do you guys honestly think you were going to get one without the Colgan purchase? Point is this...I didn't buy the damned things, I just work here...I'd be happy if I was still in the left-seat of the 1900 doing BKW-BLF-IAD Mo-Th on the early crew! Regards, ex-Navy Rotorhead |
Originally Posted by djrogs03
(Post 879949)
The Colgan guys are not getting hosed at all...they stand to do pretty well with a new contract and probably in the SLI mix...I wouldn't be asking for too much here...
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Originally Posted by AxialFlow
(Post 880009)
until then, the F/O's here want 1 thing: An upgrade. It was a reasonable career expectation for Colgan pilots hired here. 3-5 year fences should be able to accomodate that before they have to sit reserve for 5 years in EWR;)
no one forced pilots to work for any particular one of the three carriers |
Originally Posted by AxialFlow
(Post 880009)
How can you say we stand to do pretty well with a contract that doesn't exist? It could be 5 years before we have a contract...until then, the F/O's here want 1 thing: An upgrade. It was a reasonable career expectation for Colgan pilots hired here. 3-5 year fences should be able to accomodate that before they have to sit reserve for 5 years in EWR;)
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Originally Posted by xjsaab
(Post 880025)
Correct me if I'm wrong it's a pretty good step up from the current contract.
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