To be fair, 3 of the 5 MEC members who voted to pass that TA on to the pilots are no longer on the MEC. I have much more confidence in the current MEC than the old one. Also Higney was not on the MEC when that TA was put to the group.

This is pretty much how I feel as well. I've got more confidence in the current MEC than I did in the previous one. My local reps are top notch. Couldn't say that a year and a half ago. It hasn't been the MEC's fault we don't have a contract by now, it's been a perfect storm of management, the RLA and the NMB.

Stand tall.

Do something of value.

Value what you do.

Seek reasonable compensation for what you do.


One group. One contract.

You know guys, for once, why can't it just work? If Delta and Northwest can bring 12000 pilots under once seniority list and contract and if United and Continental can do it, then why does everyone think that the three MEC's from Colgan, Mesaba, and Pinnacle are not going to be able to get a good deal? Even if it is Pinnacle management, they can't drag it out this time becuase nothing can happen until things are set in motion and this is one of them. No one is going to be perfectly happy but odds are our mec's are going to be able to get us some good things.

Because we're not mainline, for one. Our business models (9E and 9L, at least) are based on providing as lowest a cost as possible to the market. Our service is crappy, and the only thing that makes it worth while to mainline is price. We're like the fat girl in the club...we really gotta horror it up to get any attention (figuratively speaking, of course)

That's just my take on how are management team approaches the day-to-day business.

Fences after agreement?

Not even a discussion piece yet, anything you hear in reference to them is pure speculation. I would not be surprised to see fences between the certificates though (as a personal opinion).

I am hearing rumblings of NO fences between certificates for upgrades...I think that was the case at RAH too, but not 100% on that and they are UBT and might have different merger rules, formulas, etc...

Nothing is even in the paper idea stage. It could be fences galore or fences non-existent.

Just to add to the rumor mill since I usually don't, but that's what one senior management guy told me he'd like to see. Of course he also isn't "directly" involved in negotiations. But as higney says don't believe anything till you see a Pinnacle FO sitting in the left seat of a Dash..