Slaphappy

True, but they are really hurting for people now and so are most regionals.

abspecial

That motivates me just fine!! I just wanna fly

And I'd be real interested if someone could confirm if there is a deal between ATP and skywest

JetJock16

Take a look at our credits. I block 85-90 hours a month but get paid for 105-110 because of guaranteed credit minimums. $19 may not be much but I made 33K my first year, can anyone say they made that at another regional? A good friend of mine made close to 50K his second year on the jet. We also get quarterly bonuses that add up to a few thousands for FOs and 4-5K for CAs. Yes you may make $21 an hour at Mesa flying the 200-700-705/900 but when they block 85 they only get paid for 85. Plus they get paid 50% for deadhead, $1.20 per diem, if a flight is cancelled they don't get paid at all, and they only get paid BLOCK. Regardless of what they fly they only get block. Ex. If they have a flight that is 1.2 block and you fly 1.6 or 1.1 you get paid 1.2, period. We get the better of block vs. actual, 100% for deadhead, $1.60 per diem, and we have guaranteed credit mins. CREDIT MINS are: 1. The least that we can get paid is 3.45 hrs per day. So if you fly one 1 hour leg you still be paid 3.45 hours. 2. For block days that exceed 3.45 hours and the duty day is less than 12 hours you will at least be paid 6 hours. 3. For every minute you exceed 12 hours of duty day you will get paid 1 to 1 for every minute over 12 hours. SO, on Wednesday I worked a 4.6 hour block day that was 13.5 duty hours. I got paid 7.5 hours, 6 hours plus 1.5 hours for being over 12. Add our per diem and quarterly bonuses and we are one of, it not the highest paid regional pilots in the industry.

I spoke with our recruiter and she said that SW is holding firm on 1000/100, but if you have 121 time they will take a look if your resume is turned in by a SW pilot. She also said that she doesn't know of any deal between SW and any flight school. The only way that schools become affiliated with SW is if the school has several pilots at SW that continue to walk in resumes.

Good luck and I am willing to answer any other questions about SW.

Burt Reynolds

Well, there is this...

http://www.atpflightschool.com/airli..._alliance.html

rickair7777

They don't get paid block, they get paid AVERAGE block, which is a fraudulent number generated by company managers...those abnormally high block times due to wx or ATC or whatever that would tend to drive the average up always seemed to get "modified" in their computer. So the "average" block is really an average of low to middle block times. The computer times are so far off from the actual times recorded by pilots that many guys are starting to keep spreadsheets comparing the two values for every leg. I'm assuming this is going to blow up in the companies face eventually (one can always hope).

Then there a bunch of dumb@asses who fly as fast as they can because they are not paid actual block...but this just drives the average even lower.

Throw in the inevitable mx cancellations, and most pilots get paid guarantee: 76 x their hourly rate plus per diem. No duty, daily, or trip rigs.

Glad to hear SKW is holding firm on the 1000/100. EDIT: Guess not, according to Burt

Burt Reynolds

Yeah, that kinda sucks, but on the other hand in order to qualify you have to have been an instructor for the school so it's not exactly a "bridge" program in the sense that you do some magical CRJ transition course for $xx,000 dollars and voila, you're a CRJ pilot.

So, compared to Eagle, Pinnacle, ASA, TSA, PSA, ExpressJet, Colgan, it doesn't seem so bad. Did I miss any?

rickair7777

Um, how 'bout the King of PFT...Mesa!

Freightpuppy

Like he said. My fiancee made more at Skywest on first year pay than I did at UPS! 2nd year on the RJ, he was on his way to $45K. He would always get 90-100 credit and worked pretty much 4 on 3 off (it's not 3 on 4 off but it's still ok). I think Skywest is one of the best commuters out there.

freezingflyboy

That attitude certainly doesnt help things at the regional level or any level for that matter... Might as well plunk down your $25,000 and go work for Gulfstream...

JetJock16

Yes, you are right. It's not what they actually block but what Mgt said they should block.