Definitely, but Eagle is still tied to an overall ASM cap that is part of APA/TWU scope clauses, as well as sizes of aircraft and how many they can operate. AMR needs to find a way for restrictions to be eliminated, but in a way that benefits all labor groups. It will be interesting to see what they can come up with, lets hope for the best for everyone!

why not? its the same thing.

Although FEDEX and UPS fly airplanes that is about the end of similarities with Airline pilots such as AA, DAL, UAL etc;. FedEx and UPS are two global cargo carriers and they do pattern pricing just as mainlines but there are only two of them and they control the pricing. Where as mainlines product pricing has 5 mainlines, 3 LCC's having an effect on the product pricing.

For all purposes FEDEX and UPS have a monopoly on cargo pricing whereas mainlines due not. Cargo carrier's can also pass on the fuel cost easier than mainlines.

So there is a reason for why you cannot generate contracts as FEDEX and UPS at mainlines. Plus the cargo carriers can generate revenue with there surface transportation, I dont know of any mainline having busing transportation subsidiaries, unless you compare regionals to cargo air carriers ground transportation.

There are 2 faces to every coin. Not that I disagree with your statement, but that is managements reasoning. Labor sees it as being the same job with the same requirments..... which equals the same pay. We all come from the same labor pool and if AA wants the best pilots, (just like Jerry Maguire) show me the money. :cool:

By the way AA has one of the largest cargo operations in the world.
American Airlines Cargo, a division of American Airlines, Inc., provides more than 100 million pounds of weekly cargo lift capacity to major cities in the United States, Europe, Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean, Latin America and Asia.

Eagle Alpa just put out a video were they believe the writting in on the wall about Eagle and a divesture...Wonder how it will all play out? Good for us or bad, Hmmmmm

Hmmmm.......interesting.

I wonder if pre 9/11, as well a before the most recent FedEx/UPS CBA's, people thought that FedEx and UPS pilots should not be making what American pilots are?

And just to keep it in perspective, FedEx and UPS current rates kinda suck compared to UAL/DAL's pre BK rates.

So... what did the Eagle ALPA video say?

Ehh, not anything shocking. It was our MEC Chairman telling us that it appears a divestiture is imminent, and it is looking to take the form of a spin off to existing AMR shareholders (as opposed to being bought by another carrier, or private equity firm). The future will hold tough situations such as AA offering new aircraft for pay concessions, and probably another 1-2 carriers performing a chunk of the flying we do today.

jwes, you need to change your position......:)