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Old 11-09-2010 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Terrain Inop
I wouldn't hold my breath for that one.
Really? For the RIGHT SEAT of the CRJ? Why would any of us "hold our breath for that one"???

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Old 11-09-2010 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by SONORA PASS
Really? For the RIGHT SEAT of the CRJ? Why would any of us "hold our breath for that one"???

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Many pilots already here at SKYW Express looking to make the move to SKYW Mainline. If they get passed over for an RJ slot there will be a riot.
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Old 11-09-2010 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by contrail67
Letter of Agreement that is in place...2nd year pay CRJ700 F/O pay for starting United furloughs.
Oh no I'm not questioning that. I should have been more clear. I was questioning whether or not the class was for the CRJ. Last we know, all new-hires, even UAL furloughees went into the EMB at 2nd year CRJ pay. So are you telling me that this class is going into the CRJ, not the EMB?
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Old 11-09-2010 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Terrain Inop
Many pilots already here at SKYW Express looking to make the move to SKYW Mainline. If they get passed over for an RJ slot there will be a riot.
Inop,

You forgot the little smiley TIC.

Many pilots at UAL flew those same routes and flights a decade ago at Mainline (the real United), and now get a few right seat new hire offers at a small fraction of the pay as consolation prize?

The riot should be, and I hope will be, at CAL and UAL over Scope! The words "Operated by" should no longer part of the boarding announcement for ANY future UAL flight. UAL pilots should be in both seats.

As far as the "riots" at SKYW go, CRJs it is.

The only thing we are holding our breath over is JCBA SCOPE!

Hope you understand why,

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Old 11-09-2010 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SONORA PASS
Inop,

You forgot the little smiley TIC.

Many pilots at UAL flew those same routes and flights a decade ago at Mainline (the real United), and now get a few right seat new hire offers at a small fraction of the pay as consolation prize?

The riot should be, and I hope will be, at CAL and UAL over Scope! The words "Operated by" should no longer part of the boarding announcement for ANY future UAL flight. UAL pilots should be in both seats.

As far as the "riots" at SKYW go, CRJs it is.

The only thing we are holding our breath over is JCBA SCOPE!

Hope you understand why,

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Don't get me wrong, I want no part of the CAL flying, I don't want to see anyone displaced from their current domicile (SKYW, or XJET), at the same time I don't want to see our F/O's passed over for the jet slot that they have the seniority for. The majority of the UAL pilots that I've flown with here have a great attitude, but even they are waiting for their jet slot (those that expected it day one already left the second class). It would be a tough pill to swallow even for them if they got passed over by a new-hire.

All I am saying is: Don't expect new hires to go into the jet.
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Old 11-09-2010 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by SONORA PASS
Really? For the RIGHT SEAT of the CRJ? Why would any of us "hold our breath for that one"???

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So you can neglect your brain from O2 and make you delirious enough to think you are a Big boy airline pilot. I mean its the RJ be careful or our wake.
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Old 11-09-2010 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by RJDio
So you can neglect your brain from O2 and make you delirious enough to think you are a Big boy airline pilot. I mean its the RJ be careful or our wake.
Hey, its not the size of your airplane. It's how you fly it.
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Old 11-09-2010 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by RJDio
So you can neglect your brain from O2 and make you delirious enough to think you are a Big boy airline pilot. I mean its the RJ be careful or our wake.
RJDio,

Completely off target with that one, but nice try.

There is NO problem in my book with those jets or routes at all! Please don't get small jet syndrome on us now.

I would love to fly one of them - For Mainline UAL with good pay and work rules.

The outsourcing of jobs with corresponding pathetic pay scales are the issue. YES, I know, that it is something we at UAL gave away and allowed to happen with short sighted dreams now turned nightmares. It is well past time to make some needed corrections for past mistakes.

The current race to the bottom with lowest bidding feeder winning, will result in many in this industry working for bottom feeders. No real security in hoping your company can underbid the others.

Sorry if I don't hold my breath and jump up and down.

Without an afterburner or a tailhook, it is just another aircraft to me.

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Old 11-09-2010 | 11:05 AM
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So these guys going directly into the right seat of the CRJ as new hires....is this just the rumor, expectation, or is it actually officially happening?
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Old 11-09-2010 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by SONORA PASS
RJDio,

Completely off target with that one, but nice try.

There is NO problem in my book with those jets or routes at all! Please don't get small jet syndrome on us now.

I would love to fly one of them - For Mainline UAL with good pay and work rules.

The outsourcing of jobs with corresponding pathetic pay scales are the issue. YES, I know, that it is something we at UAL gave away and allowed to happen with short sighted dreams now turned nightmares. It is well past time to make some needed corrections for past mistakes.

The current race to the bottom with lowest bidding feeder winning, will result in many in this industry working for bottom feeders. No real security in hoping your company can underbid the others.

Sorry if I don't hold my breath and jump up and down.

Without an afterburner or a tailhook, it is just another aircraft to me.

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Sonora just trying to bring some levity to the conversation before it spirals into something else. Plus i couldn't help myself with the good set up you gave.

I fly the RJ and am proud to fly it, no little jet syndrome here. Getting better pay on it is preeching to the choir here, that's why I voted our pay package down and I will do it until we actually get something fair.

Are you a UAL furloughee coming to skywest? if so welcome aboard. if not, you're always welcome.
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