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rickair7777 11-09-2010 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by SONORA PASS (Post 898633)
I would love to fly one of them - For Mainline UAL with good pay and work rules.

SKW has better domestic work rules than UAL :(

SONORA PASS 11-09-2010 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by RJDio (Post 898655)
Sonora just trying to bring some levity to the conversation before it spirals into something else. Plus i couldn't help myself with the good set up you gave.

I fly the RJ and am proud to fly it, no little jet syndrome here. Getting better pay on it is preeching to the choir here, that's why I voted our pay package down and I will do it until we actually get something fair.

Are you a UAL furloughee coming to skywest? if so welcome aboard. if not, you're always welcome.

RJDio,

My mistake. You very cleverly disguised that remark, and I missed the fact that you were actually just adding some "levity".

Next time I see something that seems so completely shallow and childish on the surface, I will look twice for the hidden deeper meaning. ;)

If it is all the same, I hope to see both of us at UAL mainline.

SP


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 898661)
SKW has better domestic work rules than UAL :(

Rickair,

You might be right...

SP


Originally Posted by ehaeckercfi (Post 898638)
So these guys going directly into the right seat of the CRJ as new hires....is this just the rumor, expectation, or is it actually officially happening? :confused:

Ehaecker,

I guess you have a point in your question. It is only rumor and expectation until it happens, as things can and do change frequently. It is currently planned for the CRJ, and I guess we will all find out soon if it will be official.

SP

SUX4U 11-09-2010 12:38 PM

So if the EMB guys are going to start a riot over the notion a furloughed United guy may take an RJ seat, I can only imagine the attitude around SKW when by gods good grace UAL/CAL shut down the outsourced flying gig. So perhaps instead of throwing a hissy fit if a UA guy does in fact get a RJ seat, they may want to focus more on the bigger picture looming on the horizon. Sometimes the sense of entitlement is a dangerous thing.

Tony Nelson 11-09-2010 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by E6-B (Post 898618)
Hey, its not the size of your airplane. It's how you fly it.

Its not the size of your airplane. It's how much they pay you to fly it.

Tony Nelson 11-09-2010 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by Terrain Inop (Post 898569)
Many pilots already here at SKYW Express looking to make the move to SKYW Mainline. If they get passed over for an RJ slot there will be a riot.

Is there really a SKYW Express and a SKYW Mainline or are you just making a funny?

RJDio 11-09-2010 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by SONORA PASS (Post 898689)
RJDio,

My mistake. You very cleverly disguised that remark, and I missed the fact that you were actually just adding some "levity".

Next time I see something that seems so completely shallow and childish on the surface, I will look twice for the hidden deeper meaning. ;)

If it is all the same, I hope to see both of us at UAL mainline.

SP


SP

I truly hope this does happen. I am cheering for the new UAL even though it threatens my job and i say that humbly with no sense of entitlement, especially since it has been at the expense of many good UAL folk.

JoeMerchant 11-09-2010 06:22 PM

So what happens when all the "RJ flying" comes in house and all domestic flying is done by "RJs" under "RJ" pay and workrules.....and the only mainline flying is trans-cons and international? Be careful what you wish for.....Once you "buy" it and bring it in house, there is nothing stoping management from moving most domestic flying to "RJs" with the accompanying pay and workrules....

rickair7777 11-09-2010 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by JoeMerchant (Post 898895)
So what happens when all the "RJ flying" comes in house and all domestic flying is done by "RJs" under "RJ" pay and workrules.....and the only mainline flying is trans-cons and international? Be careful what you wish for.....Once you "buy" it and bring it in house, there is nothing stoping management from moving most domestic flying to "RJs" with the accompanying pay and workrules....

At least in-house you can control it better. Living wage for FO's, six-figures for CA's and reasonable work rules. If that means that it's no longer economical to provide service to podunk falls, then the podunkians can either pay what the service is worth or take the bus. Greyhound can hire the regional pilots who don't make the cut...same job but no leadership or interpersonal skills required.

JoeMerchant 11-09-2010 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 898900)
At least in-house you can control it better. Living wage for FO's, six-figures for CA's and reasonable work rules. If that means that it's no longer economical to provide service to podunk falls, then the podunkians can either pay what the service is worth or take the bus. Greyhound can hire the regional pilots who don't make the cut...same job but no leadership or interpersonal skills required.

It will only come "in house" with a long term "buy in" that is along the lines of current regional pay and work rules with first year pay....Combine that with 2-3 years to negotiate this and a 4-5 year contract, and 2-3 more years to renogitate a "new deal", and you are looking at 8-11 years before there is much of a change in "regional pay and work rules".....In the mean time, most domestic flying currently done by the "majors" can be moved to the "new" regional flying because there is no scope anymore.....Something to think about....

As far as "six-figures for CA's", many already have that under the current system...

Newty 11-09-2010 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 898900)
Greyhound can hire the regional pilots who don't make the cut...same job but no leadership or interpersonal skills required.

Uh, the gear is already down on the bus.


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