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I personally don't see this getting completed ANYTIME soon. It's a messy situation where for some seniority numbers, there is just no good answer.
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Originally Posted by Pinchanickled
(Post 981271)
I personally don't see this getting completed ANYTIME soon. It's a messy situation where for some seniority numbers, there is just no good answer.
This is one job I would not want placed upon me. He has been part of the process since Jan, he has seen all the arguments, he already knows how he wants it done. I'm optimistic it will be done soon. |
Originally Posted by Bartok
(Post 981286)
I think we will have it before May 15th.
He has been part of the process since Jan, he has seen all the arguments, he already knows how he wants it done. I'm optimistic it will be done soon. |
Originally Posted by FlyJSH
(Post 981326)
really? and how would that be?
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lol sheesh, let's relax here a bit. Pilots... :\
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So, this is what the three groups thought "fair and equitable"....
The Mesaba Airlines merger committee presented to Mr. Bloch an integration method of “Date of Hire.” .... “Date of Hire” integration is a very straight forward integration methodology. Okay, I can see that as a plausible solution. The Colgan Air merger committee presented to Mr. Bloch an integration method of “Ratio integration.” Under the Colgan Air final proposal, the new seniority list will be created by constructing 33 individual blocks. Each block will be comprised by listing pilots from each airline in a ratio consistent with the number of pilots to be integrated from each pilot group. This method would guarantee that every one of the active pilots to be integrated will remain within 3% of their current, pre-merger, relative seniority position. That also makes some sense. And then there is this: Under the Pinnacle final proposal, the new seniority list will be created by placing each pilot into 1 of 6 possible groups; group 1 being at the top of the list and group 6 at the bottom of the list. The Pinnacle Merger Committee included all of their pilots within the first 2 groups along with a select number of Mesaba pilots; the first Colgan pilot does not show up until group 3. By delaying the placement of a Colgan pilot until group 3 it would create a list that unjustly underestimates the equities brought by the Colgan Air pilots to this merger. This methodology would place the now #1 Colgan pilot at #1904 on the new list. Yeah, that seems fair :mad: |
Originally Posted by FlyJSH
(Post 992377)
So, this is what the three groups thought "fair and equitable"....
The Mesaba Airlines merger committee presented to Mr. Bloch an integration method of “Date of Hire.” .... “Date of Hire” integration is a very straight forward integration methodology. Okay, I can see that as a plausible solution. The Colgan Air merger committee presented to Mr. Bloch an integration method of “Ratio integration.” Under the Colgan Air final proposal, the new seniority list will be created by constructing 33 individual blocks. Each block will be comprised by listing pilots from each airline in a ratio consistent with the number of pilots to be integrated from each pilot group. This method would guarantee that every one of the active pilots to be integrated will remain within 3% of their current, pre-merger, relative seniority position. That also makes some sense. And then there is this: Under the Pinnacle final proposal, the new seniority list will be created by placing each pilot into 1 of 6 possible groups; group 1 being at the top of the list and group 6 at the bottom of the list. The Pinnacle Merger Committee included all of their pilots within the first 2 groups along with a select number of Mesaba pilots; the first Colgan pilot does not show up until group 3. By delaying the placement of a Colgan pilot until group 3 it would create a list that unjustly underestimates the equities brought by the Colgan Air pilots to this merger. This methodology would place the now #1 Colgan pilot at #1904 on the new list. Yeah, that seems fair :mad: |
FlyJSH,
Where did that information come from? I haven't received anything with details. |
Looks like someone at Colgan released confidential merger information. Not the best move on their part.
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Why does everyone keep thinking this information is confidential?
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