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Originally Posted by Cruz5350 (Post 953492)

Which is weird because back when the mass hiring was going on low time people were making it through training. Yes I'm sure some washed out, but not compared to now. So what's changed?

The BUF accident put the regionals under the microscope, and appropriately so.

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Originally Posted by dosbo (Post 952686)

From research, over ten years ago, I remember 1/8th being the minimum mix to qualify for status. Also for Native American status you needed to be tribally affiliated which required affiliation by your 18th birthday with tribal participation requirements. It all seemed so silly that I am part Cherokee but would have had to prove it when all other minority groups could just mark the block. I never used it because I couldn't adequately document my history and was way to old to tribally affiliate.

That's what I figured. I don't know what my exact fraction of Native blood is, but I'm beyond 18 anyway.

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Cal Varnson (Post 952641)

Nice. I'm 1/16. Wonder if that counts?

Depends on the tribe. Some tribes will give you a CIB (Certificate of Indian Blood) at any age, however they typically want you to be at least 1/4th.

I'm 1/2 and haven't found it to give me an edge with anyone. I did just get hired after being furloughed for almost a year.

I had 2 interviews prior to my 3rd successful interview. 1st with Wisky. I interviewed against 2 women... kinda knew that was a lost cause. 2nd with Eagle. They pulled me outta the room before we even got started. Found two errors in my logbook and sent me home because of it. Errors fixed, new job acquired at a different company and very happy with the outcome.

...while a very nice thought the regionals would jump starting pay to $40k a year to fill classes, something tells me they would somehow manage to keep it at $20k a year and get the FAA to approve the "multi crew license" here in the good ole' usa....then their new hires would simply need a "multi crew license" and away they go. I am sure that's their strategy for any possibility of an airline pilot "shortage". Nice thought though.....

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Originally Posted by CTOGUY (Post 957818)

The FAA will likely lower the requirement for an ATP first. The "multi crew license" is a threat, but we are not there yet.

I'm going to ride to this pilot shortage on my Unicorn.:D

I'll fly into the shortage on my HOG. LoL

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Originally Posted by CRJ7Driver (Post 951263)

I think eagle is a little picky, and yet needs pilots to fill class. 5 coworkers that I know had applied in eagle got turn down, one of them because he had 1 CFI failed check ride

You have no way of knowing why your friend was turned down as Eagle never says why. They hire many pilots with previous busted check rides. Just because someone meet or exceeds the mins does not guarantee them a job. Some people just do not interview well, some are arrogant or not just not personable. You never know.

Interesting thing about classes being full. Several years ago I jumped on the first regional to hire me and at first it was great until the Parent company drove them into the ground and now their fleet is almost non-existant. (guess who)

Since then I have learned not to be picky and actually use the info on this website to compare payscales and the info about the most junior capt. Payscales and upgrade times are EXTREMELY important. I have had recently 3 interview requests but I am holding out for better. Pinnacle for example (not sure if this is the new contract rate) offers 21$ first year and 24$ for the second year. You have to be joking right? A 3$ per hour raise? Scratch that! And they wonder why they can't fill classes? If you could upgrade in a year that would be different but geeze 24$ a flight hour for second year pay? What are they smoking?:eek:

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Originally Posted by CFItillIdie (Post 952448)

I am a high time CFI....+2600 hrs, and I am starting to wonder if I should start ripping pages out of my logbook to make it look like I don't have as much flight time. I have seen several instructors who were junior to me with lesser credentials get interviews/jobs at places I have applied to. I really wonder if the regionals are looking to hire someone who is around that 1000 hr mark. I guess the age old tradition of "paying your dues" has lost some luster.

I got hired at Eagle at 40 years old with 4500 hrs of that hard, white-knuckle freight time. They hired 17 guys from my company. Contrary to what someone said earlier, regionals love freight dogs. They are usually very good pilots and learn well.

It could be a lot of factors. Some guys have the experience but they just don't interview well. I spent six month ins recruiting and we looked for confident (but not arrogant) pilots with good attitudes and good manners who looked us in the eyes and didn't stumble over answers too much. Even good posture says a lot. Some guys show up improperly dressed or in need of haircut. Geesh! If someone can't take the time to make themselves look presentable and dress appropriately then don't expect to get the job.

I'm just saying that there is a lot more to it than just meeting the minimums.