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FlyJSH 02-22-2011 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by CFItillIdie (Post 952457)
Congrats...what's your secret?

My secret was.... I can call myself a Native American. I used to decline to say what my ethnicity is (I don't believe that should enter into the equation-I'm qualified or I am not). But, in desperation, I started claiming my 1/8 status as a Native and lo and behold I started getting interview offers from several companies. Maybe it was timing or luck, but the previous few months I got nothing. You decide.

Vegaspilot 02-22-2011 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by stbloc (Post 952599)
What did they say?

Last class wanted 26. Only got 15. Been interviewing a lot of people last minute trying to fill classes. He wasn't sure if the next two were filled as of yet or not. I've been trying to get info on upcoming RW classes. So at it's all Shuttle and CHQ.

Cal Varnson 02-22-2011 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 952614)
My secret was.... I can call myself a Native American. I used to decline to say what my ethnicity is (I don't believe that should enter into the equation-I'm qualified or I am not). But, in desperation, I started claiming my 1/8 status as a Native and lo and behold I started getting interview offers from several companies. Maybe it was timing or luck, but the previous few months I got nothing. You decide.

Nice. I'm 1/16. Wonder if that counts?

threeighteen 02-22-2011 11:37 PM


Originally Posted by Cal Varnson (Post 952641)
Nice. I'm 1/16. Wonder if that counts?

Anyone know if there's a legal requirement?

dosbo 02-23-2011 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 952614)
My secret was.... I can call myself a Native American. I used to decline to say what my ethnicity is (I don't believe that should enter into the equation-I'm qualified or I am not). But, in desperation, I started claiming my 1/8 status as a Native and lo and behold I started getting interview offers from several companies. Maybe it was timing or luck, but the previous few months I got nothing. You decide.


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 952646)
Anyone know if there's a legal requirement?

From research, over ten years ago, I remember 1/8th being the minimum mix to qualify for status. Also for Native American status you needed to be tribally affiliated which required affiliation by your 18th birthday with tribal participation requirements. It all seemed so silly that I am part Cherokee but would have had to prove it when all other minority groups could just mark the block. I never used it because I couldn't adequately document my history and was way to old to tribally affiliate.

MIKEE 02-23-2011 05:57 AM

I bet if they dropped the minimums to 250/25 and instituted PFT they could fill every class. With inflation, I would be willing to wager the companies could get 20k out of folks and there would be a line.
This vocation is more addicting than heroin.

FlyJSH 02-23-2011 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by Cal Varnson (Post 952641)
Nice. I'm 1/16. Wonder if that counts?


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 952646)
Anyone know if there's a legal requirement?

Since we are are self declaring, and no one has given me any guidance, I used my best judgment. It isn't like they can come back and say I lied. If they DO, I'll be looking for a lawyer ASAP since those declaration forms are NOT supposed to be used for eligibility.

Cal Varnson 02-23-2011 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 952784)
Since we are are self declaring, and no one has given me any guidance, I used my best judgment. It isn't like they can come back and say I lied. If they DO, I'll be looking for a lawyer ASAP since those declaration forms are NOT supposed to be used for eligibility.

I'm not positive, but I think it depends on the state where you reside. I'm a registered member of the tribe here, so I have documentation if someone were to ask.

saab2000 02-24-2011 04:16 AM


Originally Posted by MIKEE (Post 952746)
I bet if they dropped the minimums to 250/25 and instituted PFT they could fill every class. With inflation, I would be willing to wager the companies could get 20k out of folks and there would be a line.
This vocation is more addicting than heroin.


That doesn't mean that anyone with 250/25 would make it through training. Getting a commercial certificate and then making it through a 121 training program and onto the line are two vastly different animals.

Not everyone hired these days is making it through training.

Cruz5350 02-24-2011 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by saab2000 (Post 953475)
That doesn't mean that anyone with 250/25 would make it through training. Getting a commercial certificate and then making it through a 121 training program and onto the line are two vastly different animals.

Not everyone hired these days is making it through training.

Which is weird because back when the mass hiring was going on low time people were making it through training. Yes I'm sure some washed out, but not compared to now. So what's changed?


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