Long call reserve at XJT
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Not trying to induce massive thread drift here. And everybody's experience on reserve, as well as LC reserve is different. But it can be a bit of a double edged sword the way the language is written. The aggressive pickup window helped to fix some of it. I've been on LC RSV on 3 different occasions. There were times when it was great, and times when it sucked and I would have been better off doing an R3/R4 line.
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Not trying to induce massive thread drift here. And everybody's experience on reserve, as well as LC reserve is different. But it can be a bit of a double edged sword the way the language is written. The aggressive pickup window helped to fix some of it. I've been on LC RSV on 3 different occasions. There were times when it was great, and times when it sucked and I would have been better off doing an R3/R4 line.
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Yep, which of course puts a totally different perspective on it.
The good thing is, they can NEVER make you show before 12pm on your FIRST day of the reserve block. So if you can make a 12pm show and abide by the commuter clause (either version 1 or the amended), you can ALWAYS bank on spending that last night at home and coming in on your first day. As opposed to coming in the night before. But the SAME applies to the late callout times as well. And in some cases, the late callout times can offer a little more protection if you are commuting in the morning of, where the long call can get you in trouble depending on how long your flight is for phone availability and response time, etc.
The good thing is, they can NEVER make you show before 12pm on your FIRST day of the reserve block. So if you can make a 12pm show and abide by the commuter clause (either version 1 or the amended), you can ALWAYS bank on spending that last night at home and coming in on your first day. As opposed to coming in the night before. But the SAME applies to the late callout times as well. And in some cases, the late callout times can offer a little more protection if you are commuting in the morning of, where the long call can get you in trouble depending on how long your flight is for phone availability and response time, etc.
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Yep, which of course puts a totally different perspective on it.
The good thing is, they can NEVER make you show before 12pm on your FIRST day of the reserve block. So if you can make a 12pm show and abide by the commuter clause (either version 1 or the amended), you can ALWAYS bank on spending that last night at home and coming in on your first day. As opposed to coming in the night before. But the SAME applies to the late callout times as well. And in some cases, the late callout times can offer a little more protection if you are commuting in the morning of, where the long call can get you in trouble depending on how long your flight is for phone availability and response time, etc.
The good thing is, they can NEVER make you show before 12pm on your FIRST day of the reserve block. So if you can make a 12pm show and abide by the commuter clause (either version 1 or the amended), you can ALWAYS bank on spending that last night at home and coming in on your first day. As opposed to coming in the night before. But the SAME applies to the late callout times as well. And in some cases, the late callout times can offer a little more protection if you are commuting in the morning of, where the long call can get you in trouble depending on how long your flight is for phone availability and response time, etc.
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R. Commuter Policy
1. A pilot is responsible for reporting to his assignment in a timely manner. The following provisions are not intended to relieve a pilot of that responsibility, but to address circumstances beyond the pilot’s control (e.g., flight cancellations, delays, flat tires, motor vehicle accidents, etc.).
2. A pilot who utilizes the Commuter Policy in accordance with the provisions below shall not be disciplined for not reporting for his trip in a timely fashion and shall, after consulting with his Chief Pilot, have any occurrence noted on his schedule as a commuter personal drop (CPD).
3. The Commuter Policy shall not be limited to pilots who commute by air and shall also apply to those pilots who commute by ground transportation (e.g., rail, car, bus, etc.).
4. If a pilot is commuting by air, to include multiple legs, 2 separate flights (on any airline) must be available on each leg, and the final leg must be scheduled to arrive no later than 30 minutes prior to the scheduled report time of his trip. Available seats (including the jumpseat) must exist for these flights at 24 hours prior to the departure time of the first flight. A seat is considered available if that flight is booked below the seating capacity (including the jumpseat), including non- revenue space available travelers that are listed and have a higher boarding priority than the pilot.
5. The pilot must be at the departure gate(s) 30 minutes before the scheduled departure time(s) for the available flight(s) for this policy to be utilized.
6. If a pilot is unable to arrive in time for his trip, he shall notify the Company as soon as practical, and state whether he is able to return to the trip when it next transits through his domicile. If able, the pilot will return to the trip when it transits through his domicile.
7. A lineholder will have the value of the trip he misses deducted from his line value and minimum monthly guarantee, if applicable. Any subsequent trip(s) that the
1. A pilot is responsible for reporting to his assignment in a timely manner. The following provisions are not intended to relieve a pilot of that responsibility, but to address circumstances beyond the pilot’s control (e.g., flight cancellations, delays, flat tires, motor vehicle accidents, etc.).
2. A pilot who utilizes the Commuter Policy in accordance with the provisions below shall not be disciplined for not reporting for his trip in a timely fashion and shall, after consulting with his Chief Pilot, have any occurrence noted on his schedule as a commuter personal drop (CPD).
3. The Commuter Policy shall not be limited to pilots who commute by air and shall also apply to those pilots who commute by ground transportation (e.g., rail, car, bus, etc.).
4. If a pilot is commuting by air, to include multiple legs, 2 separate flights (on any airline) must be available on each leg, and the final leg must be scheduled to arrive no later than 30 minutes prior to the scheduled report time of his trip. Available seats (including the jumpseat) must exist for these flights at 24 hours prior to the departure time of the first flight. A seat is considered available if that flight is booked below the seating capacity (including the jumpseat), including non- revenue space available travelers that are listed and have a higher boarding priority than the pilot.
5. The pilot must be at the departure gate(s) 30 minutes before the scheduled departure time(s) for the available flight(s) for this policy to be utilized.
6. If a pilot is unable to arrive in time for his trip, he shall notify the Company as soon as practical, and state whether he is able to return to the trip when it next transits through his domicile. If able, the pilot will return to the trip when it transits through his domicile.
7. A lineholder will have the value of the trip he misses deducted from his line value and minimum monthly guarantee, if applicable. Any subsequent trip(s) that the
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R. Commuter Policy
1. A pilot is responsible for reporting to his assignment in a timely manner. The following provisions are not intended to relieve a pilot of that responsibility, but to address circumstances beyond the pilot’s control (e.g., flight cancellations, delays, flat tires, motor vehicle accidents, etc.).
2. A pilot who utilizes the Commuter Policy in accordance with the provisions below shall not be disciplined for not reporting for his trip in a timely fashion and shall, after consulting with his Chief Pilot, have any occurrence noted on his schedule as a commuter personal drop (CPD).
3. The Commuter Policy shall not be limited to pilots who commute by air and shall also apply to those pilots who commute by ground transportation (e.g., rail, car, bus, etc.).
4. If a pilot is commuting by air, to include multiple legs, 2 separate flights (on any airline) must be available on each leg, and the final leg must be scheduled to arrive no later than 30 minutes prior to the scheduled report time of his trip. Available seats (including the jumpseat) must exist for these flights at 24 hours prior to the departure time of the first flight. A seat is considered available if that flight is booked below the seating capacity (including the jumpseat), including non- revenue space available travelers that are listed and have a higher boarding priority than the pilot.
5. The pilot must be at the departure gate(s) 30 minutes before the scheduled departure time(s) for the available flight(s) for this policy to be utilized.
6. If a pilot is unable to arrive in time for his trip, he shall notify the Company as soon as practical, and state whether he is able to return to the trip when it next transits through his domicile. If able, the pilot will return to the trip when it transits through his domicile.
7. A lineholder will have the value of the trip he misses deducted from his line value and minimum monthly guarantee, if applicable. Any subsequent trip(s) that the
1. A pilot is responsible for reporting to his assignment in a timely manner. The following provisions are not intended to relieve a pilot of that responsibility, but to address circumstances beyond the pilot’s control (e.g., flight cancellations, delays, flat tires, motor vehicle accidents, etc.).
2. A pilot who utilizes the Commuter Policy in accordance with the provisions below shall not be disciplined for not reporting for his trip in a timely fashion and shall, after consulting with his Chief Pilot, have any occurrence noted on his schedule as a commuter personal drop (CPD).
3. The Commuter Policy shall not be limited to pilots who commute by air and shall also apply to those pilots who commute by ground transportation (e.g., rail, car, bus, etc.).
4. If a pilot is commuting by air, to include multiple legs, 2 separate flights (on any airline) must be available on each leg, and the final leg must be scheduled to arrive no later than 30 minutes prior to the scheduled report time of his trip. Available seats (including the jumpseat) must exist for these flights at 24 hours prior to the departure time of the first flight. A seat is considered available if that flight is booked below the seating capacity (including the jumpseat), including non- revenue space available travelers that are listed and have a higher boarding priority than the pilot.
5. The pilot must be at the departure gate(s) 30 minutes before the scheduled departure time(s) for the available flight(s) for this policy to be utilized.
6. If a pilot is unable to arrive in time for his trip, he shall notify the Company as soon as practical, and state whether he is able to return to the trip when it next transits through his domicile. If able, the pilot will return to the trip when it transits through his domicile.
7. A lineholder will have the value of the trip he misses deducted from his line value and minimum monthly guarantee, if applicable. Any subsequent trip(s) that the
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I gotta read through the whole thing. But it seems as if things like "documentation upon request", two flights requires the 36 hour provision, but NOT the "less than 24 hour" that the single flight language does, the addition of the "if commuting from a place that requires a custom clear in domicile", the single flight language can only be used 3 times in a rolling 12 month period without being disciplined whereas the 2 flight rule has no limit on use are the major changes I see.
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