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lolwut 04-26-2011 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by JDFlyer (Post 985682)
Why doesn't Republic and the FAA take the position that mature, responsible adults are in command of the aircraft and as mature, responsible pilots we trust that they will not be playing video games while at their duty stations and actively responsible for a multi-million dollar aircraft, the lives of the passengers in the back, and the possible future livelihood of every other Republic employee.

I know, I know, this is asking wayyyyyy too much from from the FAA and airline management.

And I surely hope I am not making a mistaken assumption by classifying pilots in the group of people called "mature, responsible adults". :D

Unfortunately, I don't think that you can make that assumption with some of the younger generation... there are still pilots out there that think its acceptable to listen to an ipod during all phases of flight.


How do you guys get around the electronic devices rule below 10,000? I mean, you have to be able to access your manuals at any time during flight, yet the Kindle is electronic. Do you have an exemption or something?

dojetdriver 04-26-2011 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by JDFlyer (Post 985682)
Why doesn't Republic and the FAA take the position that mature, responsible adults are in command of the aircraft and as mature, responsible pilots we trust that they will not be playing video games while at their duty stations and actively responsible for a multi-million dollar aircraft, the lives of the passengers in the back, and the possible future livelihood of every other Republic employee.

I know, I know, this is asking wayyyyyy too much from from the FAA and airline management.

And I surely hope I am not making a mistaken assumption by classifying pilots in the group of people called "mature, responsible adults". :D

I dont know why you're asking management/the FAA to bear that burden. Sadly, some major/legacy pilots proved their incapable of handling that kind of responsibility. As well as blasted right past their destination while having electronic devices in front of them while involved in "heated discussion".

Nark 04-26-2011 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by lolwut (Post 985712)
How do you guys get around the electronic devices rule below 10,000? I mean, you have to be able to access your manuals at any time during flight, yet the Kindle is electronic. Do you have an exemption or something?

We aren't passengers.
I'm not sure which FAR you are referring too in regards to pilots and approved devices.

Also, the kindle is about worthless as for accessing information in a timely manner. I use it for space saving, however I also have a few quick reference pages from commonly used GOM chapters. (HOT and various procedures etc...)

higney85 04-26-2011 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by WeaselBoy (Post 985693)
Negative. The Kindle loaded with current updates of the POH and GOM are authorized in lieu of the paper ones in the cockpit.

That's awesome. I'm waiting on my iPad just to carry around all the manuals (but including the manuals I don't have to lug around). Hopefully you guys get to be the start in the industry of going fully automated.

dojetdriver 04-26-2011 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by lolwut (Post 985712)
How do you guys get around the electronic devices rule below 10,000? I mean, you have to be able to access your manuals at any time during flight, yet the Kindle is electronic. Do you have an exemption or something?

The CAL 777 fleet has EFB's installed, as well as some of the 757's I've rode on. Ask them how they get around the below 10K ft question.

higney85 04-26-2011 12:28 PM

If the 10K rule was really meant for crewmembers, only the -9's would be able to fly, everything in the cockpit is electronic on most aircraft. That being said, turning the iPod on would be classified under "undue distractions not related to safety of flight". Common sense must apply.

That being said, angry birds is addictive... ON SITS!

Blueskies21 04-27-2011 10:08 AM

I want to be able to carry my manuals on a kindle! Why can't all airlines be this enlightened? Also, when are they going to put in that USB port in the cockpit to charge the darn things. Though kindles do last darn near forever with 3g off.

Big Duke 6 04-27-2011 01:14 PM

Turbo, I just finished IOE today. See you in LGA

I am going to try to bookmark by chapters. We will see how that goes.

With all the Jepps and manuals, I had to get the kindle just so I could have room for a headset in the flight bag. I hear that the Ipad is really close to happening soon. It is way easier to search a PDF file with that.

WeaselBoy 04-27-2011 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by Big Duke 6 (Post 986339)
Turbo, I just finished IOE today. See you in LGA

I am going to try to bookmark by chapters. We will see how that goes.

With all the Jepps and manuals, I had to get the kindle just so I could have room for a headset in the flight bag. I hear that the Ipad is really close to happening soon. It is way easier to search a PDF file with that.

It goes good, until the next bulletin comes out and you replace the PDF. The bookmarks go out with the old file.

flyin 04-27-2011 11:26 PM

Kindle
 
The Kindle is approved per the GOM, but must be purchased by the crew member. The company is going to either switch to buying the Kindle for all crew shortly, or go ahead and try and get the iPad approved by the FAA. The Kindle is an archaic piece of junk in my mind, so I'm not about to waste my money on one currently. If the the iPad is approved, I'm all over it. I feel either is a down payment of the longevity of avoiding back problems due to the weight of an all paper flight kit.


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