Their website shows 600/50 take it for what it's worth.

Actually, it's 250, and Mesaba has/will hire at far less the aforementioned mins. All 3 companies cannot fill classes right now.

For the Saab? As far as I know we are staffed on the Q up north and soon to be down south as well.

I think that minimums continue to go down across the board... I'm wondering if it comes down to something like 400TT with just an ME ticket or as little as 25ME... anyone else with any opinion regarding this?

Anyone who's ben in aviation long enough, knows that It is cyclic, it is all supply & demand....... I have personally witnessed two up's & 2 down cycles, this one will be a 3rd up cycle...
There are a lot of people here, who may have seen more of these ......

Just a few yrs ago, 300-400 TT was OK to get picked up a regional...

Then came the down time & 1500 TT also was less, because 2000+TT people were applying......

Now, from what I read, minimums are dropping again, only possible reason I can reason is they can't get enough people to apply or to qualify.....

So only solution will be to either lower the minimums or lower the standards......

Well, the regionals COULD just raise wages, work rules and QOL in order to draw more qualified pilots and encourage pilots to stay longer...on second thought.....:rolleyes:

i wish that was the case... and i know the argument is "well there will continue to be low wages until people stop wanting to work for it" which i COMPELTELY agree with and i know that i will be part of the problem. BUT, if i want to advance in my career what do i do? Its either 121 or corporate, and even corporate is REALLY hard to get into without a whole lot of multi experience or what not. Insurance rules that side of the industry. I would be totally willing to wait longer, gain more experience for larger pay at regionals. My 2 cents

Both sides are true.....

They COULD raise wages but they would NOT.

And it is very hard to go to corporate or even 135 because minimuns are higher than regionals right now. I am surprised how the 135 operators would hold up in this envionment where regionals are dropping mins & still having may be a little hard time finding the kind od people they want....

If one had a choice, Regionals seem to be least of all evils...... the best bet or best combination of airframe & flying hours plus pay in the career building years.....

Even if they did raise wages and all that, its not going to increase the volume of applicants... If all airlines are having a problem filling seats in class that probably means there arent enough people to begin with... Fix the problem of students not being able to get loans to learn how to fly along with increased wages and then it might be feasible...

NO! Increasing the supply of pilots will drive down the pay. There are plenty of experienced pilots right now: there just aren't than many who are willing to live on ramen and commute to Newark. Raise the pay and QOL and the companies will have no trouble finding pilots.


Prior to getting the contract, the average Colganite jumped ship ASAP. Now, there are quite a few folks who are considering becoming lifers. Amazing what pay and work rules can do.