Supplemental income?
09-27-2006 | 10:36 AM
#21
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Almost all airlines like military guys anyway, so you shouldn't have any problems.
09-27-2006 | 10:42 AM
#22
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FlyJSH:
If flight instructing "isn't" a commercial operation...then why in the world would we be made to have a Comm SEL in the first place??!?!?!?! It IS a commercial operation, whether you get paid to do it or not. Does "Holding out or a willingness to"...or any of that stuff ring a bell? Read your regs...
...And yes...it cuts into your 1,000 hr limit. And just to reiderate...most airlines prohibit it. It's in their op specs...
Lax
If flight instructing "isn't" a commercial operation...then why in the world would we be made to have a Comm SEL in the first place??!?!?!?! It IS a commercial operation, whether you get paid to do it or not. Does "Holding out or a willingness to"...or any of that stuff ring a bell? Read your regs...
...And yes...it cuts into your 1,000 hr limit. And just to reiderate...most airlines prohibit it. It's in their op specs...
Lax
09-27-2006 | 11:20 AM
#23
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From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Unfortunately, the FAA has routinely held that flight time recieved at less than a pro rata rate is considered compensation. The trick is getting caught. Most people who do get caught are turned in by someone that is losing business. But if you are just out with friends and family (ie helping your buddy or your uncle get their instrument rating) you would be ok legally as long as you were splitting the cost of the airplane or not logging the flight time in your own logbook. But that defeats the purpose of using it as a source of additional income, which was the purpose of the original post. You can get into arguments about how anyone would ever find out, just remember: those who do get caught didn't plan too.
09-27-2006 | 01:17 PM
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If you disagree, please cite certificate action where the FAA took action in this situation (giving instruction for free, not paying for the plane, and not logging the time toward a certificate or rating).
I am, however, going to call my source at the Richmond FSDO. While not official, at least he would have a good viewpoint from the FAA's point of view. I can see both sides (your theory) and mine.
09-27-2006 | 01:30 PM
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If you can bid weekends off, be a pizza delivery driver. I worked in a good neighborhood a couple of years ago and would make $100 - $150 a night on the weekends.
Although, with gas prices these days, and the fact that I remember reading an article a while back about a delivery driver getting shot and killed.....the industry just might not be the same
Although, with gas prices these days, and the fact that I remember reading an article a while back about a delivery driver getting shot and killed.....the industry just might not be the same
--- I hear they make madd dough!
09-27-2006 | 02:02 PM
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If you can bid weekends off, be a pizza delivery driver. I worked in a good neighborhood a couple of years ago and would make $100 - $150 a night on the weekends.
Although, with gas prices these days, and the fact that I remember reading an article a while back about a delivery driver getting shot and killed.....the industry just might not be the same
Although, with gas prices these days, and the fact that I remember reading an article a while back about a delivery driver getting shot and killed.....the industry just might not be the same
that's a great option for Part 135 freight ops...places like AMF give you weekends off usually.
09-27-2006 | 02:05 PM
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From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
I agree with rick; if you are flying for free and not logging any time toward a certificate or rating you aren't doing it for compensation. Let's be realistic here. I think what the FAA was referring to in your example - if you log the time toward a certificate or rating while not paying the pro rata share w/o a commercial license - then that would be a problem.
If you disagree, please cite certificate action where the FAA took action in this situation (giving instruction for free, not paying for the plane, and not logging the time toward a certificate or rating).
I am, however, going to call my source at the Richmond FSDO. While not official, at least he would have a good viewpoint from the FAA's point of view. I can see both sides (your theory) and mine.
If you disagree, please cite certificate action where the FAA took action in this situation (giving instruction for free, not paying for the plane, and not logging the time toward a certificate or rating).
I am, however, going to call my source at the Richmond FSDO. While not official, at least he would have a good viewpoint from the FAA's point of view. I can see both sides (your theory) and mine.
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