Colgan Question
#11
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All of the above is true.
NE - no overnights, very little reserve
IAH - overnights, day trips (usually go senior), stand-ups, and reserve
Upgrade - Saab: 16 - 18 months. In the last upgrade class to go through there was a May 05 new hire (15 months). Beech: If you have the time, can be less than a year. The previous poster was correct. The problem there is due to lowtime Beech guys not having the time when their seniority number comes up. Plan on about 65 flight hours per month.
Upgrade is by seniority number. There are guys being passed over. But they are doing it to themselves by not being prepared. They have a poor annual PC, don't study, and/or gain a poor reputation on the line. So they sit. We are currently upgrading from about 135 to over 200 on the seniority list looking for guys who meet the required flight time and are prepared to upgrade. The required upgrade flight times are as posted.
Based on reading the tea leaves, more expansion is coming, so upgrade times might lower a little. If the company does bring in an additional ten Saabs (the first is in the hanger at IAH undergoing a heavy check) that will be an additional 90 to 100 pilots bringing the pilot roster to about 450 from its current 350.
NE - no overnights, very little reserve
IAH - overnights, day trips (usually go senior), stand-ups, and reserve
Upgrade - Saab: 16 - 18 months. In the last upgrade class to go through there was a May 05 new hire (15 months). Beech: If you have the time, can be less than a year. The previous poster was correct. The problem there is due to lowtime Beech guys not having the time when their seniority number comes up. Plan on about 65 flight hours per month.
Upgrade is by seniority number. There are guys being passed over. But they are doing it to themselves by not being prepared. They have a poor annual PC, don't study, and/or gain a poor reputation on the line. So they sit. We are currently upgrading from about 135 to over 200 on the seniority list looking for guys who meet the required flight time and are prepared to upgrade. The required upgrade flight times are as posted.
Based on reading the tea leaves, more expansion is coming, so upgrade times might lower a little. If the company does bring in an additional ten Saabs (the first is in the hanger at IAH undergoing a heavy check) that will be an additional 90 to 100 pilots bringing the pilot roster to about 450 from its current 350.
Last edited by WEACLRS; 09-24-2006 at 07:32 AM.
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I wanted to get to 700 hours total before I sent it, which would bring my total multi time to over 570 multi. I will also turn 21 in mid October so hopefully the whole age thing wouldnt be an issue. Not to mention I hope to have the ATP written finished on or just after my birthday.
I suggest you complete the on-line application now and then email your resume. Then call Chuck Colgan or Cathy Angelo in Manassas. Just call the main number on the website and ask for either. They'll transfer you without even asking a question. If you have questions, pm me.
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make sure you don't cause any problems at Colgan becuase not only will they pass you up on upgrade but they have been known to weed out pilots by busting them on their PC checks, and what makes a good upgare candidate at Colgan is not writing something up, cause if you do, they will screw with you all day long, you write something up, chances are you get to experience a 16hr duty day, its alot of fun !!!!!!!!!!!!! nothing like flying 8 hrs 121 then ferrying an airplane to Manchester from ALbany, at 1130pm then sleeping in a hanger until 6am then being told ok airplanes fixed go ahead and fly, well what about our 16 hr duty day sir??????? hahaha read your CFM this is part 91 son do you have a problem witht hat why dont you call the VP of OPS!!!!! Just one of may examples at least at a MX base but agian the pilot group at Colgan is awesome really cool bunch of guys i will say that. On the other hand there are two Crew schedulers that truly go out of there way to make your life miserable, both females by the way heheh
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commuting can be done at colgan. I did it from Los Angeles to the east coast for 7 months without ever missing a beat. It's tough, but if you do it right and very conservitive, you will never have a problem. Not too sure about upgrade. I'm hearing a lot of conflicting info. 15-18 to 20-24 depending on who you talk to. I think it really comes down to how you do in the PC, if you have been a douc*e bag or not, and how much time you have. I know a lot of ppl are complaining about upgrade times at colgan, but they also walked in with well less than 1000TT. It's not senority, so if you have the times, have a good PC, and have a good name out there, you will prob get looked at.
Almost no overnights in the NE, unless you get stuck with a MX repo. THat is rare though. YOu will usually get home, even if it's 3 am. IF the rumors about the 10 new 340's are true, expect upgrade times to go down, just because we will need more crews.
FOr the guy who said he has applied twice......... Dude, I came out of Los Angeles. Colgan didn't want anything to do with a west coaster mostly because I guess they have had prob's with Socal ppl quiting after moving to the NE. I called Chuck Colgan Jr presonally because I wanted the job. I sold myself, and 2 days later I had a ticket in the mail. IF you want the job, be couteous, but proactive. THey get a ton of apps i'm sure. Call Cathy or Chuck and tell them why you would like an interview. It won't hurt, and it will probably help. IF you want it, it is there. I applied 3 times with over 1200TT, 200 multi, and 135 time and never ever got an email. i call later and i ws in LGA at the interview. Good luck
Almost no overnights in the NE, unless you get stuck with a MX repo. THat is rare though. YOu will usually get home, even if it's 3 am. IF the rumors about the 10 new 340's are true, expect upgrade times to go down, just because we will need more crews.
FOr the guy who said he has applied twice......... Dude, I came out of Los Angeles. Colgan didn't want anything to do with a west coaster mostly because I guess they have had prob's with Socal ppl quiting after moving to the NE. I called Chuck Colgan Jr presonally because I wanted the job. I sold myself, and 2 days later I had a ticket in the mail. IF you want the job, be couteous, but proactive. THey get a ton of apps i'm sure. Call Cathy or Chuck and tell them why you would like an interview. It won't hurt, and it will probably help. IF you want it, it is there. I applied 3 times with over 1200TT, 200 multi, and 135 time and never ever got an email. i call later and i ws in LGA at the interview. Good luck
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Based on reading the tea leaves, more expansion is coming, so upgrade times might lower a little. If the company does bring in an additional ten Saabs (the first is in the hanger at IAH undergoing a heavy check) that will be an additional 90 to 100 pilots bringing the pilot roster to about 450 from its current 350.
We do need some good rumors of future changes, where are we gonna put 10 more AC?
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... nothing like flying 8 hrs 121 then ferrying an airplane to Manchester from ALbany, at 1130pm then sleeping in a hanger until 6am then being told ok airplanes fixed go ahead and fly, well what about our 16 hr duty day sir??????? hahaha read your CFM this is part 91 son do you have a problem witht hat why dont you call the VP of OPS!!!!! ....
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FO - "Yes, this is first offeri Barney, I am calling in fatigue."
That is how you treat it.
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As for the rest, I don't have anything confirmed. Just that they are coming. There are two other things that also add up. Additional check airman are being trained. That's the first in about nine months. And the interviewing pace has picked up. So I'm guessing something is coming soon. I wasn't sure about the PX Saabs...until I physically touched 361PX in IAH's Mx hanger.
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