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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
(Post 1035463)
BaronRouge,
I was in my 40s when I go hired at a regional. I left a 6 figure engineering career for a regional FO position, and I do not regret it, even though first year pay was less than I made in 1989. I was miserable in my other job, although I made good money. I had a very realistic outlook on what flying for an airline was before I did it, and as such, have not become completely jaded due to false expectations. My wife tells me that I 'am back', kind of like FlyWife's husband. My youngest kid (senior in high school) tells me that she never wants me to go back to what I was doing before because I actually enjoy what I do for the first time in her life, and because I am a lot more fun now! I also have a little Cessna I fly regularly. It is more fun to fly than a CRJ, but as far as work is concerned, this really isn't a bad job when you keep it in context. For example, I don't live to work, I work to support my life, so I have based my life on monthly minimum pay and take the maximum number of days off. I have 16 days off in August. I could NEVER do that with an engineering job. When I park the airplane, I go home and don't think about it, the passengers, etc... again until I show back up at the airport. I could NEVER do that with an engineering job because I always had problems I had to deal with, and I took them home with me. I had chest pains in my 30's with my engineering job, but my blood pressure was lower at my last medical than it has been in 10 years. It is a job, but much more enjoyable, especially after the door closes, than anything I have done with my pant on! Good luck! PM me if I can help. A little encouragement & may be a little guidance along the way, is all what people like Baronrouge, me & others like us need...... Thanks Again, Your post just made my day........... |
ATLCSIP...You did exactly the same thing I was about to do in 2007-08 because of lack of courage maybe, I didn't make the jump. But this time around, I am ready to switch. I am really glad it is working out for you. I may PM you, I just registered here a couple of days ago.
All the best, and enjoy your flying career! |
For what it's worth, my husband is going to be 37 in September and just got an offer from Eagle. We have no children, but intend to have at least one. It's about to become way more challenging for us, but we're ready!
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Hitmommapilot
Yes, I know, the US isn't Europe, spent a lot of time in Europe. So, what's your point? Structured training programs, military or airline cadet, are bad or good? That "punk kids" with deep pockets should not fly? That 1,500 hours as a CFI flying in VFR Florida are good, or bad, airline candidates because they can hold an ATP? I happen to propose the best proven way to create safe, disciplined pilots is to put them thru a disciplined training process with high evaluation standards and a cirriculum that provides sold basis for growth. Where airlines use cadet programs (yes, that's Europe), it can be done well. To consider the haphazard program we have, where getting a couple of hundred hours as a CFI and an arbitrary number of hours is considered qualification to fly airliners, all sorts of bad outcomes are possible. GF |
Originally Posted by Flywife
(Post 1035488)
For what it's worth, my husband is going to be 37 in September and just got an offer from Eagle. We have no children, but intend to have at least one. It's about to become way more challenging for us, but we're ready!
I will be trying Eagle soon, I am working on adding some multi (800/34). It will be hard to go from $120k/year to $20k, it is even too crazy given the current economic climate. I will appy and see what happens! |
Originally Posted by BaronRouge380
(Post 1036303)
Congrats Flywife! I am sure it will all work out for you!
I will be trying Eagle soon, I am working on adding some multi (800/34). It will be hard to go from $120k/year to $20k, it is even too crazy given the current economic climate. I will appy and see what happens! |
Originally Posted by FlyJSH
(Post 1036329)
Hard, huh? Maybe you should try living on $20k for several months before you burn a $120k bridge.
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Originally Posted by BaronRouge380
(Post 1036303)
Congrats Flywife! I am sure it will all work out for you!
I will be trying Eagle soon, I am working on adding some multi (800/34). It will be hard to go from $120k/year to $20k, it is even too crazy given the current economic climate. I will appy and see what happens! |
Originally Posted by Cruz5350
(Post 1036362)
Dude you need to take a good hard long look before you hop from 120K to 20K then 30K then 40K. I mean it's going to royally suck blowing through your cash reserves just to fly for a regional. Why not go 135 and at least make a little more money?
I haven't seen anyone with lesser minimums. |
Originally Posted by bcpilot
(Post 1036385)
Don't all 135 operators need 1200 TT min.....
I haven't seen anyone with lesser minimums. |
I think I'm having an Aneurysm trying to comprehend someone leaving 100K+ for this.
Dude should have gone to the gym....working out makes EVERYTHING better....and hell you could have bought a B36 and gone sky-hopping till your hearts content. |
Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590
(Post 1036408)
I think I'm having an Aneurysm trying to comprehend someone leaving 100K+ for this.
Dude should have gone to the gym....working out makes EVERYTHING better....and hell you could have bought a B36 and gone sky-hopping till your hearts content. |
Originally Posted by Cruz5350
(Post 1036411)
Or a Dakota
BAM |
Originally Posted by BaronRouge380
(Post 1036340)
Yes you are correct and I have been doing it! If this doesn't happen, I will at least have some money saved!
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Originally Posted by Flywife
(Post 1036430)
Once you've had a taste of money, it really highlights the fact that "money isn't everything," doesn't it?
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people who say money isn't everything obviously don't have any.
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Originally Posted by minimwage4
(Post 1036474)
people who say money isn't everything obviously don't have any.
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Originally Posted by minimwage4
(Post 1036474)
people who say money isn't everything obviously don't have any.
... unless you are a bodhisattva. |
Flyerwife is a poser. Probably the owner of a flight school. Her (his) attempt is to lure middle-aged, mid-life crisis men into persuing their "dreams". Beware of flyerwife et al.
Going from 120k to 20k in salary will certainly lead to depression, nervous and social disorders, and potentially alcoholism. Shame on you flyerwife! |
Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot
(Post 1036599)
Flyerwife is a poser. Probably the owner of a flight school. Her (his) attempt is to lure middle-aged, mid-life crisis men into persuing their "dreams". Beware of flyerwife et al.
Going from 120k to 20k in salary will certainly lead to depression, nervous and social disorders, and potentially alcoholism. Shame on you flyerwife! Where else can you build time quickly other than at a regional for 20k/year. I am looking for the time and then get out. I am open to any other avenue as well. I do not believe in any pilot shortage, but what will happen with the 1500h rule? I do hope the law becomes a fact! Retirements? One sure thing, the next few years may be quite interesting... |
Originally Posted by Flywife
(Post 1036430)
Once you've had a taste of money, it really highlights the fact that "money isn't everything," doesn't it?
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Washing my hands of this thread. It is painfully obvious that flight schools have posed incognito to trick unsuspecting people to committing to a life of squalor, missed holidays etc, and career disappointment. Plus, you'll lose that "feeling" for general aviation. Good luck to all!
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Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot
(Post 1036737)
Washing my hands of this thread. It is painfully obvious that flight schools have posed incognito to trick unsuspecting people to committing to a life of squalor, missed holidays etc, and career disappointment. Plus, you'll lose that "feeling" for general aviation. Good luck to all!
This is something that you have not seen & are not used to see & experience, that is why you find it hard to digest & therefore you are having GAS PROBLEMS AS A RESULT........ I am real & so is FLYWIFE, I know who her Husband is, where he works & I am pretty sure about a few other people here, they are all real..... Where is the guarantee that you are not an imposter....... |
Originally Posted by bcpilot
(Post 1036827)
When U get real people who are willing to exchange their real 100k plus jobs in return for your Crappy regional job then U accuse them of being a imposters.......
At time when the economy is faltering, unemployment is the highest it has been in 29 years, and who knows what will happen to interest rates now that the US has been downgraded, only a fool would voluntarily take an eighty percent pay cut. |
Originally Posted by FlyJSH
(Post 1036862)
At time when the economy is faltering, unemployment is the highest it has been in 29 years, and who knows what will happen to interest rates now that the US has been downgraded, only a fool would voluntarily take an eighty percent pay cut.
BUT Since, smart people are either leaving this industry or not coming in anymore, so, fools have to step in & replace them now... |
Originally Posted by BaronRouge380
(Post 1036675)
Hotmama, again, can we switch jobs? You don't like your job and I do not like mine. I can give you my 120k engineering job for your flying job. As I said, you'll be in an office all day going from meeting to meeting and dealing with corporate BS all day. And you will take some of it home too, very important fact!
Where else can you build time quickly other than at a regional for 20k/year. I am looking for the time and then get out. I am open to any other avenue as well. I do not believe in any pilot shortage, but what will happen with the 1500h rule? I do hope the law becomes a fact! Retirements? One sure thing, the next few years may be quite interesting... You have meetings and BS all day long. I spend upwards of eight hours per day, locked in a room the size of a walk in closet with a guy who I may hate: that guy who has questionable hygiene, talks about the boil he just had lanced, b!tches about the company incessantly, and critiques everything you do. Where else can you get hours? Hmm, let me think... I have instructed, ferried planes, sight seeing tours hauled boxes, moved patients, and spotted sailfish in the Keys (admittedly, that job was only a few days, and I was paid in liquor). There are a zillion other ways to build time: traffic watch, banner towing, pipeline patrol, hot shot delivery, photography, hauling jumpers, and on and on. Heck, you have your own 172 don't you? How about hanging out a shingle for sight seeing right now? It has been years since I dealt with that part of the regs, but if I remember (somebody correct me if I am wrong), but VFR non-stop sight seeing flights that depart and terminate at the same location and remain within 25 miles don't require anything other than a commercial cert and 100 hour inspections. When you get your time and "get out", just where are you going to go? Gone are the days of "I'm gonna get my 1000 TPIC and go to XYZ mainline." There are tens of thousands of pilots who already have several years of TPIC all ahead of you...... oh, and they have the contacts that will help them get an interview. Do you? |
I'll trade my 65K salary non flying for your 120K salary. Let's do this I sell parts for business jets so you are in the aviation business and its half your salary so not as bad as losing 3/4's of your pay deal? Ok deal.
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Originally Posted by On Autopilot
(Post 1023669)
if you went to one of thier prefferred colleges you don't even have to interview, they just give you a class date,
...:confused: no wonder we are poorly compensated!!! http://www.madhauscreative.com/Compo...5/headbang.gif |
Originally Posted by Cruz5350
(Post 1036895)
I'll trade my 65K salary non flying for your 120K salary. Let's do this I sell parts for business jets so you are in the aviation business and its half your salary so not as bad as losing 3/4's of your pay deal? Ok deal.
The deal is to trade the AIRLINE PILOT JOB of my choice with my JOB..... If it is a sales job, I already have one sales job, as far being in aviation, we are already in aviation. Baron already owns a plane, flying the $100 hamburger & scenic routes doesn't cut it for us...... It's as simple as that ..... |
Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot
(Post 1036599)
Flyerwife is a poser. Probably the owner of a flight school. Her (his) attempt is to lure middle-aged, mid-life crisis men into persuing their "dreams". Beware of flyerwife et al.
Going from 120k to 20k in salary will certainly lead to depression, nervous and social disorders, and potentially alcoholism. Shame on you flyerwife! |
Originally Posted by bcpilot
(Post 1036902)
Wrong answer..
The deal is to trade the AIRLINE PILOT JOB of my choice with my JOB..... If it is a sales job, I already have one sales job, as far being in aviation, we are already in aviation. Baron already owns a plane, flying the $100 hamburger & scenic routes doesn't cut it for us...... It's as simple as that ..... |
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