Shuttle-E170 or SkyWest-CRJ from Los Angeles?
#11
A lot of people chased the 2 year upgrade a few years back and ended up stuck or furloughed from places like TSA, PSA, and Republic. Go for the airline you can stick around for and be relatively happy with.
Republic isn't the worst place to be but it's not the best, either. I don't work for SkyWest, so I can't tell you what life is like there...but I would think commuting out of LAX makes this a win for SkyWest.
Good luck!
Republic isn't the worst place to be but it's not the best, either. I don't work for SkyWest, so I can't tell you what life is like there...but I would think commuting out of LAX makes this a win for SkyWest.
Good luck!
#13
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Do yourself a favor and go to Skywest. I am working within the Quadra-angle of evil and it aint pretty to commute let alone from the west cost. A guy that was in my crashpad in CMH (which is a real possibility for you) commuted from SEA and even if he got 3 days off in a row he spent 2 days just commuting on his days off just to get to and from work. Commutable lines are barely existant there too. I would go to Skywest on the Brasilia and upgrade quickly. Even if you were based in FAT you could drive the grapevine from LA just as long as it would take you to commute across country.
#14
You live in LA and you're actually having trouble deciding...
Republic is leveraged 1:1. One misstep and they are very close to not making payments to someone. There is also a messy integration going on. Their FO payscale is a joke. If you get stuck in the right seat for some reason the pay scale stops at year 3? Or 4? can't remember. But the E170 has full size overhead bins so it minimizes the whole RJ feel.
SkyWest has more money in the bank than most majors. They have posted a profit in almost all quarters since the early 1990's. You live in LA. They have West in their name. SkyWest has NEVER furloughed. The pilots all got together and flew reduced schedules, took voluntary leaves and the company was ok with being fat for about a year to avoid any pilot layoffs.
Both groups are made up of 99% solid pilots. Each has a few tools, but almost all of us would have gone with the other carrier if offered a job there initially.
Republic is leveraged 1:1. One misstep and they are very close to not making payments to someone. There is also a messy integration going on. Their FO payscale is a joke. If you get stuck in the right seat for some reason the pay scale stops at year 3? Or 4? can't remember. But the E170 has full size overhead bins so it minimizes the whole RJ feel.
SkyWest has more money in the bank than most majors. They have posted a profit in almost all quarters since the early 1990's. You live in LA. They have West in their name. SkyWest has NEVER furloughed. The pilots all got together and flew reduced schedules, took voluntary leaves and the company was ok with being fat for about a year to avoid any pilot layoffs.
Both groups are made up of 99% solid pilots. Each has a few tools, but almost all of us would have gone with the other carrier if offered a job there initially.
#15
been at Republic for 6 years,
GO TO SKYWEST!
upgrade is non existent here right now we have lots of FO's topped out at $36.62 and hour at year 4, there is virtually no chance of having any sense of a life commuting from LA to any base Shuttle has.
Good Luck
GO TO SKYWEST!
upgrade is non existent here right now we have lots of FO's topped out at $36.62 and hour at year 4, there is virtually no chance of having any sense of a life commuting from LA to any base Shuttle has.
Good Luck
#16
If its between the E170 and CRJ, haven't I heard of some majors not counting "Little" RJs for time? For instance, I thought I heard of one major who scoffed at ERJ time because it "didn't have leading edge devices." Seems like the E170 is a bit more what they are looking for if you are trying to get to majors some day (not trying to troll fyi, just repeating what I've heard).
#17
Before I even scrolled down I was thinking that "Saluki" needs to come in here with a good image!
If its between the E170 and CRJ, haven't I heard of some majors not counting "Little" RJs for time? For instance, I thought I heard of one major who scoffed at ERJ time because it "didn't have leading edge devices." Seems like the E170 is a bit more what they are looking for if you are trying to get to majors some day (not trying to troll fyi, just repeating what I've heard).
If its between the E170 and CRJ, haven't I heard of some majors not counting "Little" RJs for time? For instance, I thought I heard of one major who scoffed at ERJ time because it "didn't have leading edge devices." Seems like the E170 is a bit more what they are looking for if you are trying to get to majors some day (not trying to troll fyi, just repeating what I've heard).
The only US operator that I have heard any biases about is Jet Blue unofficially requires at least some jet and EFIS time. So 10000 hours all in a turboprop, no thanks. 9000 Tprop PIC and 1000 SIC in a CRJ200, welcome aboard.
#18
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Before I even scrolled down I was thinking that "Saluki" needs to come in here with a good image!
If its between the E170 and CRJ, haven't I heard of some majors not counting "Little" RJs for time? For instance, I thought I heard of one major who scoffed at ERJ time because it "didn't have leading edge devices." Seems like the E170 is a bit more what they are looking for if you are trying to get to majors some day (not trying to troll fyi, just repeating what I've heard).
If its between the E170 and CRJ, haven't I heard of some majors not counting "Little" RJs for time? For instance, I thought I heard of one major who scoffed at ERJ time because it "didn't have leading edge devices." Seems like the E170 is a bit more what they are looking for if you are trying to get to majors some day (not trying to troll fyi, just repeating what I've heard).
#19
Before I even scrolled down I was thinking that "Saluki" needs to come in here with a good image!
If its between the E170 and CRJ, haven't I heard of some majors not counting "Little" RJs for time? For instance, I thought I heard of one major who scoffed at ERJ time because it "didn't have leading edge devices." Seems like the E170 is a bit more what they are looking for if you are trying to get to majors some day (not trying to troll fyi, just repeating what I've heard).
If its between the E170 and CRJ, haven't I heard of some majors not counting "Little" RJs for time? For instance, I thought I heard of one major who scoffed at ERJ time because it "didn't have leading edge devices." Seems like the E170 is a bit more what they are looking for if you are trying to get to majors some day (not trying to troll fyi, just repeating what I've heard).
Here’s a question for you, when did the E170 come on-line and before then how did any regional pilot ever get hired?
#20
I have a class date with Shuttle on E170 and a Class date for SkyWest on CRJ. I need your help making a decision very soon. I live in LA and I have to commute for both. Please give factual advice, if you have inside knowledge about both companies. More than anything else, I would like to know about the company rules, upgrade time and the future of the companies.
In short when you take into account pay, work rules, domiciles, culture and Mgt I’d choose SkyWest. Plus there's no way I'd touch the debacle over at RAH, IMO only US Airways has a more unfavorable labor dispute.
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