Originally Posted by Farmlover (Post 1093462)

you have no idea what your talking about.

Originally Posted by IBPilot (Post 1093622)

you can say that about 98% of his posts...:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by FlyingKat (Post 1092772)

Pinnacle is not hiring because all of the training spots are taken up with transfers until late summer 2012. All of the hiring will be at Colgan/Mesaba until all of the transfers are finished. The lack of Pinnacle hiring has nothing to do with staffing levels. It is due to the implementation of 11-09.

Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1094190)

That's horse****** dude. Even a cheap airline like Mesa back in the day would send its pilots to Germany for RJ simulator training. There's ALWAYS simulators available. Whether or not the airline is willing to send its pilots over there is the question.

Originally Posted by Farmlover (Post 1093462)

you have no idea what your talking about.

Originally Posted by FlyingKat (Post 1092774)

This has nothing to do with overall staffing. JFK and DTW are temporarily overstaffed on FOs because some of them will be displaced to other equipment and were hired in anticipation of other FOs upgrading to Captain. Once 11-09 is implemented this temporary overstaff situation will go away. Ask any Captains who tried to drop a trip in DTW or JFK in November if we are overstaffed. We haven't been anywhere near our Captain RSV thresholds for Nov and Dec isn't much better. Pinnacle needed to hire 250 pilots last April to get properly staffed. Approximately 120ish had been hired by August.

Across both certificates we were short 100 pilots as of the 11-09 award, which included parking the Saabs. This information comes directly from planning. Also Delta has decreased our utilization to help with the staffing situation and help Pinnancle create a temporary overstaff situation for the next few months while everyone gets trained. The biggest limitation on hiring is the ability to get new hires through training in addition to the transfers. Right now it appears we are hiring around 12 a month as Colgan classes are composed of half new hires and half transfers at this point.

Supposedly more Qs are coming our way from United, but they are waiting for Pinnacle to get its act together staffing wise before giving us the aircraft.

All of this training and implementing 11-09 will create some screwy staffing situations until we get to late next year and all the training is finished.

Finally, remember this is Pinnacle, and everything is subject to change at a moment's notice......

Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1094215)

Little too much Kool-Aid drinking from a new hire. Step back!

Originally Posted by SLIbandit (Post 1094257)

It was brilliant voting in a contract with 50 seat jet rates being higher than 74 seat t-prop rates. Management is laughing at that one. Does everyone here think all those -200's will go to term? If Delta wanted them gone tomorrow, guess what, they'd be gone, contract be damned.
More Q's are coming. Conited wanted 15 Q's added every two years starting in 2008, for a total of 45 by the end of 2012. 2010's deliveries carried over to 2011 due to UA/CAL fleet realization issues, and other reasons as well I'm sure.
No more -200's are coming. They're leaving. The T-prop to jet ratio in 5 years may shock a few hard-liner jet jockeys here.

PS: after the 45 Q's, there are 60 options.... Do the math...

Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1094190)

That's horse****** dude. Even a cheap airline like Mesa back in the day would send its pilots to Germany for RJ simulator training. There's ALWAYS simulators available. Whether or not the airline is willing to send its pilots over there is the question.