Angry, rude, and an RJ pilot are no way to go through life.............








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Sorry, couldn't resist!

It must be tough carrying all that weight on your shoulders, Joe.

Easy Joe, remember you're dealing with a bunch of "regional" pilots who think they're a "Major."

.....but what does that make SkyWest? God's gift?

A regional sparky. :rolleyes: We're all subcontractors providing outsourced lift so relax, merge and move on.

So...before we get into a major vs regional xjet vs asa endless roundabout... The last I heard was SH telling a recurrent class a week and a half ago that there WILL be furloughs... Exactly what's changed?

You do realize that the XJT MEC didn't just make this furlough news up? Somewhere management gave this information to them and went so far as to negotiate and sign an agreement to change our contract in order to give your furloughs an opportunity to come over here. If anything, you guys should be upset at management for jumping the gun.

Anyways, there might still be furloughs.

Have you stopped to think about the fact that this language for CRJ pilots to come to the ERJ WAS NEGOTIATED. It takes two parties to negotiate, which means our MEC didn't pull this stuff out of thin air. The way I see it, all our MEC did was negotiate something and then informed us of what they negotiated. I am proud of the fact that our MEC made these provisions for our fellow pilots on the CRJ, and I hope it isn't needed! Maybe you should direct your anger to your "more experienced MEC" who didn't tell you that these negotiations were taking place. We are all one company now. You need to "get on board."

You do realize that the ASA MEC created this LOA over a year ago to allow furloughed XJet pilots to get back to work when the hiring was going to the ASA side. The newly 'negotiated' LOA from the XJet MEC only added a provision to bring back the former XJet furloughs who wanted to return. There were no negotiations to furlough on the ASA side and the XJet MEC should have worded their email better to reflect that fact.

As for the 'more experienced' bs, you guys will have to get used to your new company management. The fact is that talk of furloughs has not been any more substantial from our management than the phrasing 'we are continuing to evaluate our options'. Trying to nail our management down is like trying to hold a snake with greasy hands. Instead of instructing someone to 'get on board', let's focus our resources on management. We may be Express Jet now but it's not the Express Jet you once knew!

Oh yeah... I certainly realize all of that. I'm not trying to have a contest about our MECs. My point is that discussions, negotiations, or whatever did take place to add this provision. It should have had a clear statement that furloughs past the 18 former ERJ pilots weren't certain. I am a fan of the transparency though.... Not to long ago, our MEC cared nothing about that.

As for "get on board".... That was sarcasm. Joe once came on our message board to tell us to "get on board" with the fact that we need to have a cost competitive contract. I don't mean to instruct anyone to do anything. In the name of unity I should have left that little dig out :D

I fully believe that we should focus on management and hammering out a contract. I know the old ExpressJet is gone. Hell, the good XJT has been gone since 2007ish. But hopefully this one can be as good if not better for its pilots.