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ATOflyer 01-10-2012 03:04 AM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1114906)
Get over it. What a Sally. You are a fool for taking it personally and a bigger fool for crying about it here. Be happy you got a ride.

Haha, no one is crying about anything here "Sally", but thanks for proving my point. I wasn't the one catching a ride you fool.

NWA320pilot 01-10-2012 04:38 AM

Courtesy today whether the aviation industry or anything else is pretty much in a tailspin..... Just my $.02 worth

Std Deviation 01-10-2012 05:34 AM

Might I suggest a new briefing from the captain:

"Welcome aboard. Since I'll be pilot flying and he'll be pilot monitoring, consider yourself pilot monitoring the pilot monitoring. Because we're working 14 hour days and 7 legs per day, we're going to make a mistake at some point. Perhaps you just might be the person that traps that error and averts the NTSB from having to write those long tedious reports. And of course the local morgue here (insert outstation) is probably over worked and under-staffed as well, so they really don't want to come out and piece body parts together.

I know you really don't know our SOPs but you're obviously a pilot so if you see something wacky, ask. Since I have sleep apnea, am 40 pounds over weight, and my hearing is shot from flying Convairs for years, I am likely not on my A game. Also, because this person next to me is 30 years my junior, he will be unwilling to question me for any reason or speak up if we are going to fly into a mountain. So do it instead. Besides, he slept in the crew lounge last night since 22K a year can't get you living quarters in (insert airline hub here). So the level of alertness in this cockpit is really crummy. Better yet, even if I don't talk to you or even flat out ignore you - I have irritable bowel syndrome from those years of airport food - just consider yourself part of the team, take the I-pod out of your ears to maintain SA, and help keep us alive and out of trouble.

IBPilot 01-10-2012 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1114906)
Get over it. What a Sally. You are a fool for taking it personally and a bigger fool for crying about it here. Be happy you got a ride.

1. learn how to read.
2. If you have forgotten your roots so soon and can't say anything positive in the regional forums, stay in the Major's sandbox and play nice...:rolleyes:

IBPilot 01-10-2012 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by NWA320pilot (Post 1114924)
Courtesy today whether the aviation industry or anything else is pretty much in a tailspin..... Just my $.02 worth

Exactly. Read post I quoted above to see why....

Moonwolf 01-10-2012 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by skyxbomb (Post 1114462)
One that stood out was an AWAC crew that couldn't take a jumpseater. Capt made them put 7-800 lbs of ballasts and the last 20 mins of the flight were flown with spoilers deployed to burn the extra fuel. Couldn't thank them enough!! One time we had a jumpseater, our captain called dispatch to change the required fuel, and de-fueled the airplane. We took a delay but it was worth getting somebody home after a long trip. Be nice to others and it'll come back to you.

Thats what we do man! good to hear somebody appreciates it. I've done this plently of times, makes for an interesting flight. I've had great experiences all around major/regional etc. It pains me a little to say this, but even thanks to brickyard, for the one CA who opened the door back up after it was shut, and stomped up the jet bridge to get me the last seat. :D

BrewMaster 01-10-2012 08:43 AM

I commute on Shuttle America a lot. They are some of the nicest pilots I have ever met. Keep it up.

Rode on a UAL 75 the other day and the CA must not have slept very well. He didn't seem too happy that morning, and barely said a word to me. Guess what? I still got to my destination.

Everybody lives a different life. Some people are mean, some people are nice, some people are dealing with issues at home, some people have ego's that barely fit in the cockpit, etc. No need to get all butthurt because they don't roll out the red carpet. Say "Please" and "Thank You" and you won't have any issues.

PBSG 01-10-2012 01:25 PM

I think I may have come across as rude at some point or another, but keep in mind it may be from a number of other factors. Don't take it personal if the Captain isn't too friendly - He or she may just be having a bad day. I commute and welcome all other commuters in the JS as long as they didn't have mexican food the night before. :)


Originally Posted by maxjet (Post 1114502)
Some guys just don't have a clue.

Not to give out any details as to not offend the CA, but I sat on a JS for 3 hours listening to a mainline CA talk about his $100,000 motor home - How nice it was, what color it was, how big his plasma TV was in there and it just kept going on and on. When there was a break in the conversation the FO, who apparently has heard enough about the motor home over the course of the trip would pipe in and ask random "How are things at your airline" question. Before I could answer the CA, who you could tell was clueless as hell, would pipe in about "Did I tell you about the grill I bought for the motor home??". And then we'd hear about the grill for his motor home.

The best part came when he said his daughter, 17 years old, would take her friends out there to the campsite to "sing campfire songs and roast marshmallows, and play the guitar and just had a good ol' time!" When he said that the FO and I shared the same "That ain't what your daughter is doing out there, sir" glance.

oasis04 01-10-2012 02:50 PM

Actually had a XJet pilot give us crap from the jumpseat for our aborted T/O.

"GAH...I can't believe you aborted for that. You just F'd me"
needless to say he wasn't on the airplane when we pushed off the gate again.

Stratosphere 01-10-2012 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by PCLCREW (Post 1114728)
She was prbly one of the women hired straight out of riddle in the early 80s. Most of them don't have a clue because they never had to work their way up.

Yep UAL was famous for hiring women and miniorities with virtually no time in the 80's due to a concent decree. My cousin was a USCG C-130 driver academy grad had thousands of hrs flying in Alaska and when he applied to UAL during this period he didn't even get a response but I saw they hired one woman out of riddle with around 600 hrs no turbine time and put her sideways in the DC-10. Doesnt surprise me this Capt was clueless.


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