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GlobeTreker 01-15-2012 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by etflies (Post 1117535)
Its ALL about cost. As far as comfort goes, I've ridden on every RJ currently flown by US operators, and all but one turboprop type and I wouldnt put any of the 50 seat jets at the top in terms of comfort. To each his own though.

It does amuse me when im walking out to the airplane for my next flight and a passengers asks methis old the Q400 they're looking at is. I had one guy tell me I was wrong when I told him the airplane wasn't yet a month old. Oh well.

Do yourself a favor and apply at Expressjet now. Flying the jet takes more skill than a turboprop and it will better prepare you for a job at the majors. If you were a recruiter at Delta who would you rather hire, a pilot of an antiquated dangerous turbo prop or a jet pilot?

DirectTo 01-15-2012 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by etflies (Post 1117535)
It does amuse me when im walking out to the airplane for my next flight and a passengers asks methis old the Q400 they're looking at is. I had one guy tell me I was wrong when I told him the airplane wasn't yet a month old. Oh well.

I enjoy the ones who take pictures out the terminal windows or as they're walking across the ramp. I do my best to photo-bomb them.


Originally Posted by GlobeTreker
Flying the jet takes more skill than a turboprop and it will better prepare you for a job at the majors.

Please tell me there is message board-hidden sarcasm dripping off this post that I missed? Having flown both, the turboprop is much more challenging and exponentially more fun.

Laxrox43 01-15-2012 08:03 AM


Everybody knows turboprop time is inferior to jet time. Expressjet is hiring if you want to make yourself marketable for the majors.
Gee you sound like you went to one of those pilot factory flight schools. I've flown both. It takes more skills, knowledge, and flying ability to manhandle a turbo-prop. Enough said.

2StgTurbine 01-15-2012 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by newarkblows (Post 1117488)
The q 400 has a small baggage compartment and has had to leave bags behind on full flights. Usually they throw them on the next flight. What CAL found out when they originally brought in CHQ was that when you start bumping people due to weight restrictions, or leaving bags behind forcing compensation it adds up to a pretty sizeable number fast.

I have never had to leave bags in the Q400 even with a full flight. It is rare to get the aft baggage compartment full, and the few times it does happen, we just put the extra in the forward hold. Also, the newer Q400s have nearly normal sized overhead bins, so fewer bags get gate checked than on most RJs.

GlobeTreker 01-15-2012 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by Laxrox43 (Post 1117552)
Gee you sound like you went to one of those pilot factory flight schools. I've flown both. It takes more skills, knowledge, and flying ability to manhandle a turbo-prop. Enough said.

If that were true they would pay people more money to fly turbo props. All ATP's has a jet transition course you can take to get you back up to speed on the jets. I would hurry up and get your 1000 jet pic if you want to catch the next big wave of hiring at the majors. They are going to pass right over the guys with turbo prop only time.

The Juice 01-15-2012 08:17 AM



Originally Posted by Laxrox43 (Post 1117552)
Gee you sound like you went to one of those pilot factory flight schools. I've flown both. It takes more skills, knowledge, and flying ability to manhandle a turbo-prop. Enough said.

If that were true they would pay people more money to fly turbo props. All ATP's has a jet transition course you can take to get you back up to speed on the jets. I would hurry up and get your 1000 jet pic if you want to catch the next big wave of hiring at the majors. They are going to pass right over the guys with turbo prop only time.
You are obviously just taking the ****, now

n9810f 01-15-2012 08:31 AM

Chq & 135
 
I believe Chautauqua still has at least 1 135 flying out of MKE that is subleased from CAL. But that'll be returned once the DOT allows them to stop the EAS flying out of MKE. There were 4 or 5 subleased for F9 Express out of MKE at one time.

stoki 01-15-2012 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by Laxrox43 (Post 1117552)
Gee you sound like you went to one of those pilot factory flight schools. I've flown both. It takes more skills, knowledge, and flying ability to manhandle a turbo-prop. Enough said.

Flying itself aside. TP time is inferior to jet time. After speaking to various recruiters from various companies, ESPECIALLY overseas, a jet guy is more likely to get on somewhere then a turbo-prop driver (unless he is applying at a turbo-prop carrier). Even if it does take more piloting skills and effort to fly a turbo-prop properly. And I have been flying one for the past 3.5 years.. and wish I could replace it with jet time, being as that is what lots of employers seem to prefer.

Stupid? Yes, but it seems to be the case, more and more here in the U.S, where traditionally that hasn't been the case, but especially anywhere overseas, where your TP time is about as good as piston time.

PerpetualFlyer 01-15-2012 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by newarkblows (Post 1117488)
The emb 135 can usually fly full with a full load of bags as long as there isn't a big alt fuel burn. It makes sense if you have really light loads between two points. Ever since CAL started charging for bags the carry ons have been adding up. The q 400 has a small baggage compartment and has had to leave bags behind on full flights. Usually they throw them on the next flight. What CAL found out when they originally brought in CHQ was that when you start bumping people due to weight restrictions, or leaving bags behind forcing compensation it adds up to a pretty sizeable number fast.

These 135's are already being paid for by CAL who was able to work out a deal with the lease holder. The replacement parts are already there, the replacement parts cost a hell of a lot less when you are ordering for 245 airplanes vs 30 airplanes, no new maintenance guys needed, no new pilot training required, and if it breaks there are 245 more of them to find a replacement to still operate the flight.

Ummmmm no? I've never seen that happen with bags. I've had to get rid of 1 standby once, and that was only because we had close to max fuel.

UFFL 01-15-2012 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by stoki (Post 1117570)
Flying itself aside. TP time is inferior to jet time. After speaking to various recruiters from various companies, ESPECIALLY overseas, a jet guy is more likely to get on somewhere then a turbo-prop driver (unless he is applying at a turbo-prop carrier). Even if it does take more piloting skills and effort to fly a turbo-prop properly. And I have been flying one for the past 3.5 years.. and wish I could replace it with jet time, being as that is what lots of employers seem to prefer.

Stupid? Yes, but it seems to be the case, more and more here in the U.S, where traditionally that hasn't been the case, but especially anywhere overseas, where your TP time is about as good as piston time.

Was wondering which companies here in the US that you have talked to prefer jet vs turboprop time?


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