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ZapBrannigan 03-15-2023 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3608025)
Be interesting to see how many regionals fold by then.

This is not a bad thing. Return mainline flying to the mainline. Commuters can go back to flying 19-30 seat turboprops between Altoona and Pittsburgh.

sailingfun 03-15-2023 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by mcdonald (Post 3607911)
With Republicans now controlling the house, why hasn't this bill come up for a vote?

Because it has no support even with the republicans.

mcdonald 03-15-2023 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3608057)
Because it has no support even with the republicans.

Really? Wasn't changing it from 60>65 generally accepted as being a positive change for companies, workers, and consumers alike?

joepilot50 03-15-2023 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by mcdonald (Post 3608225)
Really? Wasn't changing it from 60>65 generally accepted as being a positive change for companies, workers, and consumers alike?

Ask those whose careers were stagnated due to age 65 as it being beneficial to workers…..

sailingfun 03-16-2023 03:34 AM


Originally Posted by mcdonald (Post 3608225)
Really? Wasn't changing it from 60>65 generally accepted as being a positive change for companies, workers, and consumers alike?

No, ICAO changed their age to 65. The FAA had agreements that meant they had to let those pilots fly in the US. There were multiple lawsuits over age 60 in court at that time. The FAA had beat those in years past as a safety issue which is the only reason you can discriminate for age. Hard to argue in court at that point that foreign pilots were safe to 65 and US pilots were not. Everyone except a bunch of airline pilots knew age 60 was done so legislation was quickly crafted to raise the age to 65 before a judge did it in court and possibly eliminated any age restrictions and or made it retroactive.
Other than a few pilots no one wants the age raised again including airline managements. The disability costs to the airlines would be enormous.

rickair7777 03-16-2023 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 3607995)
Not much of anything is going to come up for a vote because everything is on razor thin margins...... gridlock thankfully.


Sometimes a dysfunctional government isn't a bad thing...

Excargodog 03-16-2023 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3608511)
Sometimes a dysfunctional government isn't a bad thing...

Not if the dysfunction is Congress ceding power to unelected bureaucrats so they can dodge the accountability they are supposed to have for making the laws that govern us. That’s just cowardice and careerism.

TransWorld 03-16-2023 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3608511)
Sometimes a dysfunctional government isn't a bad thing...

Investment managers have shown me divided government, gridlock, is good for the stock market. Neither party can pass extreme legislation. It must be more middle of the road legislation. That is good for the economy.

threeighteen 03-16-2023 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3608025)
Be interesting to see how many regionals fold by then.

hopefully all of them.

mcdonald 03-16-2023 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3608462)
No, ICAO changed their age to 65. The FAA had agreements that meant they had to let those pilots fly in the US. There were multiple lawsuits over age 60 in court at that time. The FAA had beat those in years past as a safety issue which is the only reason you can discriminate for age. Hard to argue in court at that point that foreign pilots were safe to 65 and US pilots were not. Everyone except a bunch of airline pilots knew age 60 was done so legislation was quickly crafted to raise the age to 65 before a judge did it in court and possibly eliminated any age restrictions and or made it retroactive.
Other than a few pilots no one wants the age raised again including airline managements. The disability costs to the airlines would be enormous.

Interesting. Is there any chatter about ICAO raising again? Or are they not having the same challenges across the pond that we are?

I had concluded that while this would only be kicking the can down the road, it would slow things down for a bit which would help stabilize the regionals--and management would want that. I am also surprised the longest tenured pilots wouldn't want the option to keep going for a couple more years given the money they would make.


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