Just to get destabilized again after the can has been kicked?

Just rip the bandaid off now. This is ultimately the fault of management for the past 20-25 years so let them face those consequences. Pipeline dried up because no one in the younger generation wanted to become pilots having to spend thousands of dollars, go into debt, etc just for the ROI being $20,000 a year and MAYBE just MAYBE get to a major airline. So they decided to go into sectors where that investment had a better chance of paying off.

If you guzzle propaganda from a fire hose - then yes.

Yes, there are ICAO rumblings, many parts of the world have looming pilot shortages, although covid pushed the reckoning to the right a bit.

Two more years would help the airlines mitigate the shortage, give them some breathing room but not a whole lot... my swag is that only maybe 50% of pilots would be both willing and able to go past 65.

But the US airlines are actually opposed, at least the big ones. General consensus is it will cost them way too much in LTD payments... many folks go out well before age 65, so this would be another two years tacked on for the LTD legion. It's not a tiny demographic.

Pilots who are happy and comfortable in their current seniority might not mind getting an opportunity to work (or collect LTD) for two more years. Many pilots are opposed if they feel they'll get stuck in a less-than-ideal position for two years (really it would be one year at the most).

The french people, right at this moment, ARE PROTESTING IN THE STREETS to prevent the government from raising the retirement age from 62 to 64. And here in the states it is even a question for it to be raised to 67. That's RIDICULOUS lmao.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_F...reform_strikes

Retiring at 67 is ridiculous. The average lifespan of a US male is 77 years old.

So you work your entire life, and in the end, just get to enjoy life for 10 measly years when your body aches everyday and you aren't even at your prime anymore, then be buried forever. LOL.

There should in fact be a bill to LOWER the retirement age, not HIGHER it.

i agree Ive seen way to many people work tell 65. Then be dust in the wind shortly after. I want to be out by 60 at the latest…. Or adopt “Euro” vacation rules… should be able to take 1 month a year off paid.. and then 2 -4 other weeks off paid.

I wouldn't want to fly past 65...but I intend to keep working in some capacity as long as I can. I can't stand being idle and there's plenty of evidence that your brain cells start to go and diseases like Alzheimer's and Parkinson's speed up when people retire. Happened to my father-in-law. As soon as he retired his mind and body fell apart.

When Social Security was established, the full retirement age was 65. You could take early retirement at age 62.

Why? The average lifespan of a U.S. male was 62 years old. The average lifespan of a U.S. female was 65 years old. So Social Security bet more than half would not live long enough to see a penny of it.

Using that logic, It should be raised to 77 years old.

Yes, that just stood you on your head. But it is factual.

The average age of death for someone who is 67 is higher than 77. A quick google search says it’s something closer to 83 so like 6 years longer than you mentioned. Just figured I’d throw that out there.

Also, your average pilot is in a higher socioeconomic position, and will live longer than the national average.

Yes we take some health hits due to circadian disruption, bad food, etc but we still live longer than poor folks.