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coryk 02-02-2012 07:31 PM

Do you need to be a graduate of the university or just their flight program? I went to ERAU after getting out of the Navy, got my ratings thru Comm-multi then left to start a job and will finish the degree online thru their online courses. That always confused me.

goaround2000 02-02-2012 07:34 PM


Last checkairmen that sat Jumpseat on our flight said most likely the four year part 141 grads will get an exception of being ATPed at 800 hours instead of 1500. :D
Yes, because we all know that classroom time is so much valuable than actual time!!! Wow!!!

I have one of those useless aviation Degrees and I can tell you that other than theoretical knowledge, the actual flying was and still is what builds my character. I wonder how much the riddle guys paid to lobbyist?

UpThere 02-03-2012 03:36 AM


Originally Posted by goaround2000 (Post 1128300)
I wonder how much the riddle guys paid to lobbyist?


Probably about enough to make the tuition down there go up about $20,000 per student

saab2000 02-03-2012 12:26 PM

A vacancy was announced today which will result in 5 captain upgrades. Among a bunch of people moving around there are 5 new captains. So that's good news.

727flteng 02-03-2012 05:20 PM

I realize this is probably not the correct forum for my question, but this thread is kinda focused on 5900 so was wondering if you guys knew the answers...

First, the way I read it, it states you will need an ATP for hiring into the regionals when the time comes, hence the 1500 hour number being thrown around. Does anyone know if the time reducing requirements still stand, aka flight engineer time counting for 500 of those hours? I'm "planning" on having the 1500 by the time the rule hits, but one never knows. I'm currently sitting at about 600 / 100 ME and was hoping to get the ATP pretty close to 1000 if this exception still applies (have 6000 hours FE time, 2000 of it part 121)

Second; Have I read it correctly that you just need an ATP, or do you need ATP AND 1500 hours. Thanks for the clarifications, just trying to be marketable asap!

IDIOTPILOT 02-03-2012 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by 727flteng (Post 1128788)
I realize this is probably not the correct forum for my question, but this thread is kinda focused on 5900 so was wondering if you guys knew the answers...

First, the way I read it, it states you will need an ATP for hiring into the regionals when the time comes, hence the 1500 hour number being thrown around. Does anyone know if the time reducing requirements still stand, aka flight engineer time counting for 500 of those hours? I'm "planning" on having the 1500 by the time the rule hits, but one never knows. I'm currently sitting at about 600 / 100 ME and was hoping to get the ATP pretty close to 1000 if this exception still applies (have 6000 hours FE time, 2000 of it part 121)

Second; Have I read it correctly that you just need an ATP, or do you need ATP AND 1500 hours. Thanks for the clarifications, just trying to be marketable asap!


(b) Minimum Requirements- To be qualified to receive an airline transport pilot certificate pursuant to subsection (a), an individual shall--
(1) have sufficient flight hours, as determined by the Administrator, to enable a pilot to function effectively in an air carrier operational environment; and
(2) have received flight training, academic training, or operational experience that will prepare a pilot, at a minimum, to--
(A) function effectively in a multipilot environment;
(B) function effectively in adverse weather conditions, including icing conditions;
(C) function effectively during high altitude operations;
(D) adhere to the highest professional standards; and
(E) function effectively in an air carrier operational environment.
(c) Flight Hours-
(1) NUMBERS OF FLIGHT HOURS- The total flight hours required by the Administrator under subsection (b)(1) shall be at least 1,500 flight hours.
(2) FLIGHT HOURS IN DIFFICULT OPERATIONAL CONDITIONS- The total flight hours required by the Administrator under subsection (b)(1) shall include sufficient flight hours, as determined by the Administrator, in difficult operational conditions that may be encountered by an air carrier to enable a pilot to operate safely in such conditions.
(d) Credit Toward Flight Hours- The Administrator may allow specific academic training courses, beyond those required under subsection (b)(2), to be credited toward the total flight hours required under subsection (c). The Administrator may allow such credit based on a determination by the Administrator that allowing a pilot to take specific academic training courses will enhance safety more than requiring the pilot to fully comply with the flight hours requirement.
The law says in order to get an ATP, you'll need to have 1500 hours or have credit toward flight hours. This isn't a regulation yet so it's still unclear how it will be incorporated into Part 61. Current regs state you can use your FE time as described. Try and get your ATP by then and it shouldn't matter.

fosters 02-03-2012 06:27 PM

Also RDU is going to be closing, possibly CLT and/or CAE opening, I heard from a friend

jackal24 02-03-2012 08:10 PM


Also RDU is going to be closing, possibly CLT and/or CAE opening, I heard from a friend
Yup. They just sent out the memo today. More info at the end of the month.

Tom a Hawk 02-05-2012 12:44 PM

How about DCA? senior? junior? small? large?
new hires being put in all bases?

Moonwolf 02-05-2012 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by Tom a Hawk (Post 1129749)
How about DCA? senior? junior? small? large?
new hires being put in all bases?

junior is orf. dca you can probably get off the bat, although you would be rsv for a few months at least.


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