Someone didn't pass math!

Count me as a CRJ FO who doesn’t like the way PBS has been used so far. From guys getting bypassed because of small errors in a bid, junior guys getting lines by luck due to training or vacation at the expense of senior guys, to PBS sending guys to reserve for December for blocking 940 hours through November. The system is far from perfect and I don’t like this crap of lucky line holders at the expense of seniority. “Pilots are in control with our system?” to me there are too many loopholes that screw these same pilots over. Close the loopholes, then let’s talk about which system is better.

Pbs sucks. It works for the rich. Senior guys love it. Management loves it. Month to month no big deal. But any month with vacation or training and your schedule is totally effed.

If management ever wants to change something you are happy with....pay attention. They want it cause it will save them money, and make you work more for less. Hold the line. I'm considering applying at xjet mainly cause of line bidding and the vacation time u can pull off after year 6. If u have pbs, kiss those 20 day vacation weeks behind.

Dude, simply not true! Someone else who wants to crack off on a PBS system they know nothing about. ASA's system does not eff you in a vacation month, in fact, quite the opposite. Most people work 6-8 days in a vacation month (on 7 days vaca) and get 75 hrs. How is that a bad deal? Same with training. ASA uses virtual credits for training/vaca.

One word....CLUELESS

Sorry to break it to you. But in a vote legacy XJT out numbers all the PRO PBS dummies at ASA. That being said PBS will never be at the combined company. That's a check you can take to the bank and cash!!!!

Do you understand that the logic of the system works in seniority order? So you said junior guy's are getting a line with vacation or training at the expense of senior guy's? Guess what, that "senior guy's" line was awarded before it even looked at the pilots junior to that person... When the system is working a senior guy's schedule it doesn't give a damn who has vacation below him. That vacation pilot is just possibly getting some pairings that would otherwise go into open time. And you do understand that one of the reason's to have PBS is to finish up with little to no open time so that (ideally) the system can operate with less reserves. That part still needs work. The vacation and training thing is an issue to be worked out. Training actually typically put's a bubble line holder on reserve because it waste's 4 day's for only 16 hrs of credit. Maybe there should be a virtual credit put on training day's just for bidding purposes to keep that from happening. The vacation thing ****es a lot of junior line holders off until they get put on reserve and have a vacation month come up, then they love it. I wouldn't mind if there was something put into the contract that if you wanted to do a 65 hour month then you will just get paid 65 hours of credit rather than guarantee. Management is so upset with 65 hr vacation months getting guarantee pay and they claim it requires them to staff much higher to cover what is left behind from the senior guy's with up to 8 possible 65 hour months. If someone want's to take a break with a 65 hour month then they would have to weigh the smaller than guarantee paycheck that month in exchange for all that time off. I find it good enough to get 4 hrs of pay while I'm sitting possibly on an island or something somewhere. I'm sure the next couple of replies will be from those who swear the most possible soft credit at the highest hourly rate is the only thing exceptable, but that's not how you run a profitable business...

You must be 15. Dummies? You for real?

When negotiations fail and arbitration begins, good luck on your vote counting for s#@t!

Why would anyone want a concession?
PBS = Concession