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PilotJ3 02-15-2012 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by CloudPilot57 (Post 1135573)
I wasn't talking about the past, I was merely mentioning the new trend. More and more people will be going from G1000's and the like to RJ's with no significant steam time.

I wasn't trying to offend steam guys, I'm one!

I had a case a couple of years ago (when I was CFI), a student came to rent the planes in my school. That guy never flew a steam gauges, he didn't pass the check to rent the planes.

As I always said to my students, "do your certificates in steam gauges, then do the transition to glass later on when you get a job. Is easier to scan a glass than gauges."

Seattlecfi 02-16-2012 05:36 AM

When I was hired in 2008, I had 450 hours of TPIC, 230 in a CRJ, and 220 in an EMB-120. At that time, NWA wanted people that could easily transition to the DC-9.

Go to what ever gives you the best QOL right now, you never know whether you will get a call.

Imapilot2 02-16-2012 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by Jamers (Post 1134556)
Turboprop time is definitely less valuable. I've seen it first hand.

Jamers is 100 correct. I also have seen it first hand. Are there exceptions, yes, i was one of those also. Here it goes, I had a shat load of pic turbo prop time at a regional, was told to my face at JetBlue interview I needed jet time, at a Airtran interview the exact same thing.....they even went on to say that I would most likely not be successful in their training having only flown turboprops! even though i have never failed any check ride in 15 years. I was hired by delta, miracle to have even gotten the interview with only turboprop time. In class hiring cord was asked by a new hire if one of his friends was on the next list, asked his name he looked it up, he was a colgan prop captain, point blank he said"your friend needs to get on a jet"

Imapilot2 02-16-2012 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg52 (Post 1135279)
Beg to differ. While in training last year, DAL released 6 new hires last summer because they could not fly the DC-9 (as told by a very good friend of mine who happened to be a DC-9 instructor). All six had zero "steam gauge" time, just glass. They had no crosscheck and were let go.


to be a little more specific, of those six, four were from Compass, two were let go from the nine and two from the airbus, one of those four was fired for his mouth, he blew up on the captain, they went to the cp office and he then blew up on the cp.......bye bye

Window_Seat 02-16-2012 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Dieseldog (Post 1134529)
The most recent thread is from 07. Furthermore they seem to progress into who's the better pilot and get stuck there. I'm not interested in anything but marketability at the legacies.

MARKETABILITY ONLY PLEASE!

Thanks!

Direct entry captain, perhaps you should also think about pay in there too. After all, it is a job and that's a big part of what people do jobs for.

Dieseldog 02-16-2012 12:24 PM

Thanks for the answers. Did I understand correctly?

Turbo Prop Pic = No bueno

Turboprop PIC+ Jet SIC = Bueno

Jet PIC = slightly more Bueno

ShyGuy 02-16-2012 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by Imapilot2 (Post 1136078)
to be a little more specific, of those six, four were from Compass, two were let go from the nine and two from the airbus, one of those four was fired for his mouth, he blew up on the captain, they went to the cp office and he then blew up on the cp.......bye bye

LOL! More details please!

usmc-sgt 02-16-2012 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by Dieseldog (Post 1136142)
Thanks for the answers. Did I understand correctly?

Turbo Prop Pic = No bueno

Turboprop PIC+ Jet SIC = Bueno

Jet PIC = slightly more Bueno

Turbo Prop PIC = bueno (ish)

lolwut 02-16-2012 12:53 PM

Non "Entry Level" airlines don't want to have to teach you anything to get you up to speed on their equipment. They want you to be fully qualified and experienced in the basics of what they fly. Glass, FMS, jet, etc.

I've seen it first hand where pilots with thousands upon thousands of PIC in a turboprop (but no jet time) were seen as a bigger unknown than pilots with Jet SIC and no turbine PIC.

I don't completely agree with that, in fact I don't at all, but it happens.

Dieseldog 02-16-2012 01:01 PM

So, is my understanding correct that: Turbo Prop Pic is moderately marketable, turboprop PIC + Jet SIC is marketable, jet PIC is the most marketable?


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