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Luv2Rotate 02-16-2012 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by lolwut (Post 1136169)
Non "Entry Level" airlines don't want to have to teach you anything to get you up to speed on their equipment. They want you to be fully qualified and experienced in the basics of what they fly. Glass, FMS, jet, etc.

I've seen it first hand where pilots with thousands upon thousands of PIC in a turboprop (but no jet time) were seen as a bigger unknown than pilots with Jet SIC and no turbine PIC.

I don't completely agree with that, in fact I don't at all, but it happens.

Hmmmm, none of our Q400 drivers that have moved onto bigger and better places didnt have problems... Granted we are possible the only prop with full glass and dual FMS.

xjtguy 02-16-2012 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate (Post 1136331)
Granted we are possible the only prop with full glass and dual FMS.

Possibly. Excluding the second FMS, the Dornier 328 prop model was just as if not more sophisticated than a Q400 is.

Some apps I've filled out ask if you have FMS experience. I have yet to see one that asks if you have DUAL FMS experience.

NZAV8R 02-16-2012 04:37 PM

imho it would appear that the trend is that jet time is becoming more favored, over turbo-prop time, in general. Turbo-prop time may still be accepted, however, there may be specific criteria to meet. For example (albeit Qatar Airways is an international carrier):

Pilots & Flight Deck Crew | Qatar Airways US


First officers
Minimum of 1,000 hours in one of the following categories:
• Multicrew, multiengine jet aircraft
• Command of turbo-prop above 20,000 kg MTOW
• High performance military jets
• Valid ICAO ATPL or frozen ATPL
• Valid instrument rating
• Valid Class 1 medical
• Minimum level 4 ICAO English proficiency

Second officers - Fast track
• Minimum of 1,500 hours in a modern multipilot turbo-prop
greater than 12,000 kg MTOW
• Valid ICAO ATPL or frozen ATPL
• Valid Class 1 medical
• Minimum level 4 ICAO English proficiency

Swedish Blender 02-16-2012 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by lolwut (Post 1136169)
Non "Entry Level" airlines don't want to have to teach you anything to get you up to speed on their equipment. They want you to be fully qualified and experienced in the basics of what they fly. Glass, FMS, jet, etc.

At my "non entry level" airline, they tried not to put guys in a plane that they had flown at previous airlines. They wanted to teach them their company procedures.

I had no real glass (EADI and EHSI), and no FMS when I started in the 757/767.

ShyGuy 02-16-2012 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate (Post 1136331)
Hmmmm, none of our Q400 drivers that have moved onto bigger and better places didnt have problems... Granted we are possible the only prop with full glass and dual FMS.

So all of them had problems :eek:

Window_Seat 02-16-2012 06:32 PM

Nobody cares that this guy hasn't said one thing about pay on here, its all about chasing the PIC? No wonder why 2011 was the first year i broke 50k after 6 years on a jet. Faaawwwk!!!!

The Juice 02-16-2012 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by Window_Seat (Post 1136405)
Nobody cares that this guy hasn't said one thing about pay on here, its all about chasing the PIC? No wonder why 2011 was the first year i broke 50k after 6 years on a jet. Faaawwwk!!!!

Of course, how did we miss it.

Dont answer the OP's question, scorn him for being "part of the problem." Man, these forums are indeed full of information:rolleyes:

Colnago 02-16-2012 08:04 PM

I've only seen jet time favored for international airlines just as posted above regarding Qatar.

Window_Seat 02-17-2012 12:17 AM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 1136443)
Of course, how did we miss it.

Dont answer the OP's question, scorn him for being "part of the problem." Man, these forums are indeed full of information:rolleyes:

Your Colgan, that explains it. You guys didn't care about money either.

Dieseldog 02-17-2012 03:46 AM


Originally Posted by Window_Seat (Post 1136405)
Nobody cares that this guy hasn't said one thing about pay on here, its all about chasing the PIC? No wonder why 2011 was the first year i broke 50k after 6 years on a jet. Faaawwwk!!!!

First year FO pay on the B1900 is three bucks less than on the CRJ900 at your company.


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