Colgan or Republic?
02-18-2012, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate
Oh Shy... Been to Toronto lately? take a trip over to bombardier, there you'll see 5 count them 5 new Q400s with United livery on them....
02-18-2012, 08:28 AM
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While Shy brings up the dreaded and absolute worst case scenario; he's not wrong.
But United has made it clear they want the Qs. I would put money on it that they're not going anywhere. And I'd say with confidence that we'll get more when we start parking the super-slaabs ... Whenever that may be.
But United has made it clear they want the Qs. I would put money on it that they're not going anywhere. And I'd say with confidence that we'll get more when we start parking the super-slaabs ... Whenever that may be.
Also, your scenario needs to have numbers attached to it. 31 Qs, minus 31 Saabs, and then the potential plus 5 Qs. I still count a negative 26 aircraft.
02-18-2012, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
United can still have Qs, but nothing says they have to be at Colgan. Have you seen the windown agreement? While I haven't, there's no doubt it gives United the flexibility to find another Q operator (my bet would be Commutair) to slowly start taking deliveries with financing from Bombardier/United and at cheaper rates than Pinnacle Corp. That's the whole point of a wind down agreement, it allows the legacy carrier options to find new regional operators with a reasonable timeframe.
Also, your scenario needs to have numbers attached to it. 31 Qs, minus 31 Saabs, and then the potential plus 5 Qs. I still count a negative 26 aircraft.
Also, your scenario needs to have numbers attached to it. 31 Qs, minus 31 Saabs, and then the potential plus 5 Qs. I still count a negative 26 aircraft.
02-18-2012, 09:26 AM
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ShyGuy... It's not your flying,
it's your attitude.
The enemy's dangerous, but right now
you're worse. You're dangerous and foolish.
You may not like the guys flying with you, they may not like you
but whose side are you on?
it's your attitude.
The enemy's dangerous, but right now
you're worse. You're dangerous and foolish.
You may not like the guys flying with you, they may not like you
but whose side are you on?
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02-18-2012, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Prancinghorse
ShyGuy... It's not your flying,
it's your attitude.
The enemy's dangerous, but right now
you're worse. Dangerous and foolish.
You may not like who's flying with you,
but whose side are you on?
it's your attitude.
The enemy's dangerous, but right now
you're worse. Dangerous and foolish.
You may not like who's flying with you,
but whose side are you on?
02-18-2012, 11:01 AM
#38
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Originally Posted by Prancinghorse
ShyGuy... It's not your flying,
it's your attitude.
The enemy's dangerous, but right now
you're worse than the enemy. You're dangerous and foolish.
You may not like the guys flying with you,
they may not like you
but whose side are you on?
it's your attitude.
The enemy's dangerous, but right now
you're worse than the enemy. You're dangerous and foolish.
You may not like the guys flying with you,
they may not like you
but whose side are you on?
02-18-2012, 12:59 PM
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Everyone is detracting from the original thread topic. The original poster asked about Republic vs Colgan, and we would be doing him a disservice if we didn't at least bring to light the fact that the CEO has mentioned all our props are running on a loss, and if we don't come to an agreement with United, the Colgan flying could be cut. Nothing is official, but the OP needs to know that.
02-18-2012, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Everyone is detracting from the original thread topic. The original poster asked about Republic vs Colgan, and we would be doing him a disservice if we didn't at least bring to light the fact that the CEO has mentioned all our props are running on a loss, and if we don't come to an agreement with United, the Colgan flying could be cut. Nothing is official, but the OP needs to know that.
Republic may be losing some CHQ flying too on the CO side and Frontier and they have furloughed the past 2 winters... It is a total crap shoot
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