Another CAL (Colgan) incident?
05-13-2009, 12:06 PM
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Another CAL (Colgan) incident?
Why in the world is Continental Airlines contracting out their business to a bottom feeder airline like Colgan? Oh nevermind, it's because CAL is getting the cheapest rate from Colgan.
After the BUF crash, I cannot believe that Colgan just had a wheel fall off a Dash 8 yesterday.
Sorry CAL guys, but your management is running your airline into the dirt in my opinion.
My family will not fly on CAL again until they get rid of the bottom feeding commuters like Colgan.
Incident: Colgan DH8D at Buffalo on May 12th 2009, lost wheel on landing
Incident: Colgan DH8D at Buffalo on May 12th 2009, lost wheel on landing
By Simon Hradecky, created Wednesday, May 13th 2009 09:13Z, last updated Wednesday, May 13th 2009 09:13Z
A Colgan Air de Havilland Dash 8-400, registration N187WQ performing flight 9L-3268 from Newark,NJ to Buffalo,NY (USA), had landed on Buffalo's runway 23 and was taxiing to the ramp via taxiway Alpha, when the tower queried the crew, whether they had lost a tire. After an affirmative reply from the crew emergency services inspected the taxiway and decided to also have a look onto the runway, then reported that fluid, possibly from hydraulics, was on the runway and a whole wheel had been located with debris around the intersections of runway 23, runway 32 and taxiway Alpha. Both runways were closed, runway 32 reopened about 10 minutes later.
After the BUF crash, I cannot believe that Colgan just had a wheel fall off a Dash 8 yesterday.
Sorry CAL guys, but your management is running your airline into the dirt in my opinion.
My family will not fly on CAL again until they get rid of the bottom feeding commuters like Colgan.
Incident: Colgan DH8D at Buffalo on May 12th 2009, lost wheel on landing
Incident: Colgan DH8D at Buffalo on May 12th 2009, lost wheel on landing
By Simon Hradecky, created Wednesday, May 13th 2009 09:13Z, last updated Wednesday, May 13th 2009 09:13Z
A Colgan Air de Havilland Dash 8-400, registration N187WQ performing flight 9L-3268 from Newark,NJ to Buffalo,NY (USA), had landed on Buffalo's runway 23 and was taxiing to the ramp via taxiway Alpha, when the tower queried the crew, whether they had lost a tire. After an affirmative reply from the crew emergency services inspected the taxiway and decided to also have a look onto the runway, then reported that fluid, possibly from hydraulics, was on the runway and a whole wheel had been located with debris around the intersections of runway 23, runway 32 and taxiway Alpha. Both runways were closed, runway 32 reopened about 10 minutes later.
05-13-2009, 12:45 PM
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All your regional carriers feed a major, so I guess you can walk.
Every regional & major has had accidents and mx issues.
Why are you getting your panties in a bunch over Colgan and CAL?
This is nothing new.
Every regional & major has had accidents and mx issues.
Why are you getting your panties in a bunch over Colgan and CAL?
This is nothing new.
05-13-2009, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Cook
Sorry CAL guys, but your management is running your airline into the dirt in my opinion.
My family will not fly on CAL again until they get rid of the bottom feeding commuters like Colgan.
My family will not fly on CAL again until they get rid of the bottom feeding commuters like Colgan.
Looks like Southwest is your option then. Becasue almost EVERY OTHER MAJOR AIRLINE contracts your so called "bottom feeding commuters".
05-13-2009, 02:36 PM
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This is a pretty bold statement considering the facts (none.)
Did shoddy mx cause the wheel to fall off?
Did pilot error cause the wheel to fall off?
Did a manufacturers defect cause the wheel to fall off?
Did bombardier get a bad set of hardware for the gears that was not casted correctly and was softer than normal causing a shear in some of the bolts?
Do you get where I am coming from with this?
Do not be so quick to fry a regional when there is no information. If it later comes out that mx failed to torque the wheel to specs and then incorrectly fastened the safety wire then you can revisit this post and blame the airline.
The amount of "incidents" that happen daily in the airline industry are numerous, Colgan obviously has a spotlight on it as of now so if they taxi out missing a seatbelt extender it will be all over the news.
Did shoddy mx cause the wheel to fall off?
Did pilot error cause the wheel to fall off?
Did a manufacturers defect cause the wheel to fall off?
Did bombardier get a bad set of hardware for the gears that was not casted correctly and was softer than normal causing a shear in some of the bolts?
Do you get where I am coming from with this?
Do not be so quick to fry a regional when there is no information. If it later comes out that mx failed to torque the wheel to specs and then incorrectly fastened the safety wire then you can revisit this post and blame the airline.
The amount of "incidents" that happen daily in the airline industry are numerous, Colgan obviously has a spotlight on it as of now so if they taxi out missing a seatbelt extender it will be all over the news.
05-13-2009, 02:39 PM
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And of course Captain Crunch… er Cook is the definitive expert as to the management, training, checking, oversight, quality of crews maintenance of all airlines.
Do share with us, CC, what exactly are your credentials to pass such judgment on commuters?
Do share with us, CC, what exactly are your credentials to pass such judgment on commuters?
05-13-2009, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by captjns
And of course Captain Crunch… er Cook is the definitive expert as to the management, training, checking, oversight, quality of crews maintenance of all airlines.
Do share with us, CC, what exactly are your credentials to pass such judgment on commuters?
Do share with us, CC, what exactly are your credentials to pass such judgment on commuters?
05-13-2009, 04:00 PM
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I think the bigger question is not so much about the broken wheel but what the crew's reaction was. According to the article they knew about the missing wheel but didn't inform ATC to close the runway until it's retrieved.
But again, with no information at all about it I think it's best to just put this story to rest and try not to hang the crew without even knowing what really went on.
But again, with no information at all about it I think it's best to just put this story to rest and try not to hang the crew without even knowing what really went on.
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