Another CAL (Colgan) incident?
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From: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
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...notice how Captain Cook doesn't have the nads to respond. Get the real info from a true source before posting. Remember the old saying..."When one assumes, they make an Ass out of U and Me." Thanks for listening.
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Don't drag my name through the mud!
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Not to defend CC but he may have been referring to when you look at Colgan from different directions. Hiring reqs:
Commercial License or Air Transport Pilot Certificate.
1000 Hours Total Time.
100 multi-engine
Multi-Engine Current & Instrument Current
Currently hold a FAA First Class Medical Certificate
Must be a U.S. Citizen or have authorization to work in the U.S. as defined in the Immigrations Act of 1986
Ability to work with the public and under stressful conditions.
Must be able and willing to relocate to assigned bases.
Be willing to accept and work with changes in scheduling, including work on holidays and weekends.
No felony convictions.
Be willing to take a drug test
Also, take into acct the cockpit voice recording released yesterday where the CP said she has NEVER flown in icing before yet she is hired for an airline that services the NE US. Also, the article read that anti-icing is not covered in Colgan training. You can't believe everything you read but come-on. Just some food for thought. In Colgan's defense I did JS once this yr in a Q400and observed a very nice ILS to actual Cat 1 mins at EWR.
Commercial License or Air Transport Pilot Certificate.
1000 Hours Total Time.
100 multi-engine
Multi-Engine Current & Instrument Current
Currently hold a FAA First Class Medical Certificate
Must be a U.S. Citizen or have authorization to work in the U.S. as defined in the Immigrations Act of 1986
Ability to work with the public and under stressful conditions.
Must be able and willing to relocate to assigned bases.
Be willing to accept and work with changes in scheduling, including work on holidays and weekends.
No felony convictions.
Be willing to take a drug test
Also, take into acct the cockpit voice recording released yesterday where the CP said she has NEVER flown in icing before yet she is hired for an airline that services the NE US. Also, the article read that anti-icing is not covered in Colgan training. You can't believe everything you read but come-on. Just some food for thought. In Colgan's defense I did JS once this yr in a Q400and observed a very nice ILS to actual Cat 1 mins at EWR.
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From: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
Airline hiring requirements are not the problem… it’s the lack of discipline demonstrated that may be a leading contributing factor to air accidents. Nonchalant behavior has been the cause of many accidents including but not limited to CFIT. Many policies and procedures, be them mandated by a country’s aviation agency or by the company’s airline are established to protect us, cabin crew, passengers, and the jet from ourselves. The airlines’ training and checking program, which is part of flight operations, set tone and discipline of their cockpit environment from basic indoctrination through the line check.
Colgan is not the first carrier to have a flight officer to slip through the cracks during the hiring process… and perhaps not the last one either. This may be an awakening for airlines to perform their true due diligence when considering applicants for employment under the Pilot Record Improvement Act of 1996.
Carriers should adopt a program for first officers contemplating upgrade must operate in winter conditions for a full season.
Colgan is not the first carrier to have a flight officer to slip through the cracks during the hiring process… and perhaps not the last one either. This may be an awakening for airlines to perform their true due diligence when considering applicants for employment under the Pilot Record Improvement Act of 1996.
Carriers should adopt a program for first officers contemplating upgrade must operate in winter conditions for a full season.
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