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Old 05-14-2009 | 04:39 PM
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Old 05-14-2009 | 09:51 PM
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how did they get the video?? shouldnt portable electronic devices be off during landing??????haha
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Old 05-14-2009 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 1900Driver
how did they get the video?? shouldnt portable electronic devices be off during landing??????haha
Exactly, that pax should be prosecuted for breaking FAR's and whipped with a wet noodle. Then maybe a little waterboarding by Nancy Pelosi. Seriously, how do people know when this kind of stuff is going to happen, then catch it on video. Maybe it was a conspiracy and the person sabotaged the wheel trying to get paid by a tabloid for the video. Also, that Q-400 gear collapse in Denmark captured on video. Crazy. Makes you wonder how much of our normal day to day ops is taped and not sent out to the masses. We all better watch our backsides. On a layover when your throwing back a few barley pops tell people you sell insurance or some other job you can talk semi-intelligently about so your not anwering alcohol before flying q's. My $.02.
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Old 05-15-2009 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by effsharp
oooppss.. southwest just blew a tire and rollout and started a fire. yea capn, looks like you're gonna need a rail pass
blowing a tire and having the wheel, hub, and brake assembly FALL OFF(!!!!!) are two very different things. I think what the original poster was getting at is that Colgan has had a bad reputation for maintenance and an overall operation for a very long time. Almost everyone knows an ex-colgan pilot who does not speak highly of the operation. When they come to their new airline and they realize that there arent any MEL's on the aircraft and if they need something fixed it i will get fixed.... SHOCK! I would seriously hesitate to send family on Colgan airlines.

FO's making under 20K a year, a hiring department that is to busy to check your FAA records???, a questionable at best maintenance department, There old hiring mins were 600TT before the economic slowdown and they went below those on occasion, and the least of my worries is the airplane which has a far from stellar performance record but is forgiveable because it is still working out its kinks. Sorry that i am far from impressed.
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Old 05-15-2009 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by visceral
He said Cat I not III.
Ahhh, one of those nights. I do know the difference between I and III but apparently not last night.
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Old 05-15-2009 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Cook
Why in the world is Continental Airlines contracting out their business to a bottom feeder airline like Colgan? Oh nevermind, it's because CAL is getting the cheapest rate from Colgan.

After the BUF crash, I cannot believe that Colgan just had a wheel fall off a Dash 8 yesterday.

Sorry CAL guys, but your management is running your airline into the dirt in my opinion.

My family will not fly on CAL again until they get rid of the bottom feeding commuters like Colgan.

Incident: Colgan DH8D at Buffalo on May 12th 2009, lost wheel on landing
Incident: Colgan DH8D at Buffalo on May 12th 2009, lost wheel on landing
By Simon Hradecky, created Wednesday, May 13th 2009 09:13Z, last updated Wednesday, May 13th 2009 09:13Z

A Colgan Air de Havilland Dash 8-400, registration N187WQ performing flight 9L-3268 from Newark,NJ to Buffalo,NY (USA), had landed on Buffalo's runway 23 and was taxiing to the ramp via taxiway Alpha, when the tower queried the crew, whether they had lost a tire. After an affirmative reply from the crew emergency services inspected the taxiway and decided to also have a look onto the runway, then reported that fluid, possibly from hydraulics, was on the runway and a whole wheel had been located with debris around the intersections of runway 23, runway 32 and taxiway Alpha. Both runways were closed, runway 32 reopened about 10 minutes later.
Well, Cpt Cook, or whatever you fancy yourself to be, if you weren't so cheap and look for the cheapest air fare, you wouldn't have to fly on any Colgan flight. You always have the option to walk, Suuh.
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Old 05-20-2009 | 07:22 AM
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Didn't Southwest fly airplanes around for over a year that were missing inspections. Someone could have gotten hurt if that part had failed.
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Old 05-20-2009 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BoredwLife
Looks like Southwest is your option then. Becasue almost EVERY OTHER MAJOR AIRLINE contracts your so called "bottom feeding commuters".
Virgin America, Allegiant and Jet Blue do not have regionals contracted either.
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Old 05-20-2009 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by newarkblows
blowing a tire and having the wheel, hub, and brake assembly FALL OFF(!!!!!) are two very different things. I think what the original poster was getting at is that Colgan has had a bad reputation for maintenance and an overall operation for a very long time. Almost everyone knows an ex-colgan pilot who does not speak highly of the operation. When they come to their new airline and they realize that there arent any MEL's on the aircraft and if they need something fixed it i will get fixed.... SHOCK! I would seriously hesitate to send family on Colgan airlines.

FO's making under 20K a year, a hiring department that is to busy to check your FAA records???, a questionable at best maintenance department, There old hiring mins were 600TT before the economic slowdown and they went below those on occasion, and the least of my worries is the airplane which has a far from stellar performance record but is forgiveable because it is still working out its kinks. Sorry that i am far from impressed.
In the not too distant past, UAL's hiring mins were 350 TOTAL TIME with a Comm/Instr ticket....and they are a MAJOR airline? Guess they could only hire the bottom feeders with mins like that, right? Nope, wrong. Just as using total hours doesn't represent a pilots skill level, having a wheel bearing give out doesn't make a maintenance department questionable.
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Old 05-20-2009 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot
In the not too distant past, UAL's hiring mins were 350 TOTAL TIME with a Comm/Instr ticket....and they are a MAJOR airline? Guess they could only hire the bottom feeders with mins like that, right? Nope, wrong. Just as using total hours doesn't represent a pilots skill level, having a wheel bearing give out doesn't make a maintenance department questionable.
I don't think united has hired with 350 hours since the mid 60's
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