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02-19-2012 | 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gettinbumped

We blocked out LITERALLY 20 min late in DEN the other day because my FO couldn't get a word in on ramp with all the AC's calling on top of each other to push. We finally just gave up and waited for you all to leave. Boarding is the LEAST of our issues at United. Embarrassed? The feeling is mutual

To be fair gb, he's frustrated with a process that management in their infinite wisdom came up with, that IS completely stupid. Your frustration comes from an overloaded ramp control issue.

Aren't you guys allowed to drop the brake, THEN call for push? If not, sorry, sounds like ANOTHER asinine policy from management. If you ARE able, you're getting paid by the hour, right?

02-19-2012 | 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Juice

Dude, this seriously sounds like a great way to get your behind busted by TSA.

I can't imagine what they would think when I run onto a SIDA ramp to grab (what is now a checked bag) that I plan on bringing back up inside a sterile secure area.

You know, this is a good point, and I've thought of it, but it is consistently suggested to me by pilots, gate agents, etc. Often mainline guys are right there with me or leading the charge. Go figure? The bag doesn't get the "checked to your final destination tag" just a gate-check tag. The bag handlers usually take the crew bags off too and place them next to the belt loader waiting for pick-up.

Beats me, man.

02-19-2012 | 03:23 PM

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On mainline flights aren't all the crew bags in the cabin in the overheads or flight deck??

I commute regularly and have never seen a mainline pilot go out on the ramp to retrieve his/her bag.

02-19-2012 | 03:35 PM

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not if your stuck boarding last waiting for a seat, its almost easier to drop the bag at the door vs hit everyone in each row trying to jam it in whatever shoecubby size hole is left, i almost prefer leaving my bags at the door on express flights, less stuff = easier.

02-19-2012 | 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by captain152

On mainline flights aren't all the crew bags in the cabin in the overheads or flight deck??

I commute regularly and have never seen a mainline pilot go out on the ramp to retrieve his/her bag.

I've seen it regularly at IAH. That's what the Yellow CAL crew tags are for, they leave the bag either next to the belt loader or just sitting on the belt loader waiting for the pilot to come get it (Jumpseaters) instead of them going to baggage claim.

02-19-2012 | 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by blastoff

Ok, good. I'm not the only one here who has seen this.

02-19-2012 | 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by flybywire44

Yet another reason to commute in uniform.

You're missing the point of the thread.

It doesn't matter if you are in uniform. If you are not working the flight and your are not a mainline employee, then you can only bring a carryon and a personal item.

02-19-2012 | 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by EWRflyr

Actually it is partially fed driven as our baggage policy is submitted to the TSA/FAA which they can check for compliance.

Also, it is not about ticking off the UniCal crews. Mainline UAL pilots do not have flight cases anymore since they went to ship sets for all their manuals and charts. Mainline CAL does not have that yet. Hence we need the exemption to carry our flight case above the 1 + 1 limit. This was put out because CAL DHs on UAL flights were getting contentious with UAL agents over the issue of flight crews having three bags.

I'll be glad to not carry the thing and free up space, but until then I've got three bags on board if it's not a day trip.

EWR,

I used to be a gate agent, and have been part of an FAA audit. I understand about weight and balance. My point was that an FAA inspector isn't going to give a rip if you work for mainline or not if you are commuting. All they are going to care about is how many bags you are carrying onto the aircraft for weight and balance. The fact that mainline crews flight cases are exempt tells me that this is more about bin space than the FAA. If this were driven by the FAA, then all cases, no matter who carries them, would come under the 1+1 rule.

02-19-2012 | 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by gettinbumped

The 10 am bank is an absolute cluster, but just remember it isn't just us lowly RJ drivers causing all the mess. You guys need listen before you key the mike. 95%, it's mainline stepping all over everyone else to call for push. You're not the only plane out there.

My personal favorite was watching an Airbus come barreling onto the ramp at 6W without talking to anyone. He got halfway down CS before Ramp questioned him. His response? "We called 4 times, but since we couldn't get a word it, we just continued."

02-20-2012 | 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by EvilMonkey

I think I remember a memo saying this was for deadheading crews as well. Does UniCal really expect crews to go out to baggage claim in DEN/ORD/IAD to retrieve their flight kits?

Yes. I have had this exact scenario.

Was told that there was no room (there was) and I would have to check it. There is no gate delivery other than strollers so yes, I did have to go out to baggage claim to claim my bags. There are many mainline folks who just look at us as undesirables on their airplane and do this out of spite. Thankfully cases like this are rare.

No, I wasn't PO'd at all......