XJet taking 9E flying?
03-07-2012 | 01:33 PM
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XJT had every right to be mad when others came in. This is because unlike most "regionals" of today, ExpressJet used to be "Continental Express", owned by CAL, part of CAL. We all had CAL employee numbers, we flowed up on schedule when our number came up, and our paychecks said Continental Airlines on them. We walked to picket line together, "ONE AIRLINE, ONE CONTRACT". Then we were sold off and turned into just another regional player like everyone else. We weren't just some company who bid on some flying and won the routes. We were created by CAL, for CAL, to be part of CAL. Many pilots went to CAL with their current employee number, current board date, and current pay. We were one in the same until 2003. This is why you see guys that have been around awhile cringe when they see Colgan or CHQ or Commutair or whoever come in and fly for UniCal. We're not misinformed, things have just changed a lot in the last 10 years. Carry on.....
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03-07-2012 | 03:21 PM
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XJT had every right to be mad when others came in. This is because unlike most "regionals" of today, ExpressJet used to be "Continental Express", owned by CAL, part of CAL. We all had CAL employee numbers, we flowed up on schedule when our number came up, and our paychecks said Continental Airlines on them. We walked to picket line together, "ONE AIRLINE, ONE CONTRACT". Then we were sold off and turned into just another regional player like everyone else. We weren't just some company who bid on some flying and won the routes. We were created by CAL, for CAL, to be part of CAL. Many pilots went to CAL with their current employee number, current board date, and current pay. We were one in the same until 2003. This is why you see guys that have been around awhile cringe when they see Colgan or CHQ or Commutair or whoever come in and fly for UniCal. We're not misinformed, things have just changed a lot in the last 10 years. Carry on.....
As you should know, all the "we" stuff ended in 2002 on the IPO/pump and dump spin off, NOT 2003. In other words, after that there no longer was a "we" when referring to people that worked at the COEX side of Continental Airlines. It was as that point, in 2002, that ExpressJet became just another player. The flow through, done. It was only the flow up-flow down-flow backs, "schindler's list" and "P.I.G.s" at that point.
The ONLY thing that XJT had going for them was the structuring of the CPA that was done as part of the spin off. At which point, in 2007, CAL simply exercised their option to start having 25% of the flying done by anybody they chose. Which they were able to announce in beginning of 2006.
A regional airline; get in, get your time, and GTFO ASAP.
The shifting/cycling and terminating/awarding of FPD's and CPA's is NOTHING but part of the constant suck of working for a regional provider.
Agreed. And sadly, unless scope is recaptured, so are the junior pilots at (insert legacy airline here).
03-07-2012 | 06:15 PM
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03-07-2012 | 06:34 PM
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lol the joke is actually on you guys. Yes, I chose to watch my kids grow up and be around for my family because that is the most important thing to me, not this pathetic career. Its pretty nice not having done an overnight in many years while making around 120K. And guess what, if we get replaced by another regional, then I'll....dare I say it......go do something else. I made the choice many years ago that I'd rather take my chances and be there for my family rather than go to CAL and do 5 days to Hawaii and be lucky to be home 1 or 2 nights a week.....all to say I fly a 737 or 757 or w/e. Those of you guys that are single and live for only yourselves, right now going to do that Intl flying seems pretty great.....but talk to me in 5 or 10 years when you have a wife and a few little ones at home that don't understand why daddy can't make that soccer game or why all the other dads are at the daddy/daughter dance but not theirs. Talk to me when you kids start hysterically crying as soon as they see you pull your uniform out. Trust me, your wife and kids will be really impressed with that 7-4 you're flying when you're missing 75%+ of all the important things in their lives. Those regional lifers lol, man they need to have their head examined.
03-07-2012 | 06:55 PM
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lol the joke is actually on you guys. Yes, I chose to watch my kids grow up and be around for my family because that is the most important thing to me, not this pathetic career. Its pretty nice not having done an overnight in many years while making around 120K. And guess what, if we get replaced by another regional, then I'll....dare I say it......go do something else. I made the choice many years ago that I'd rather take my chances and be there for my family rather than go to CAL and do 5 days to Hawaii and be lucky to be home 1 or 2 nights a week.....all to say I fly a 737 or 757 or w/e. Those of you guys that are single and live for only yourselves, right now going to do that Intl flying seems pretty great.....but talk to me in 5 or 10 years when you have a wife and a few little ones at home that don't understand why daddy can't make that soccer game or why all the other dads are at the daddy/daughter dance but not theirs. Talk to me when you kids start hysterically crying as soon as they see you pull your uniform out. Trust me, your wife and kids will be really impressed with that 7-4 you're flying when you're missing 75%+ of all the important things in their lives. Those regional lifers lol, man they need to have their head examined.
03-07-2012 | 07:06 PM
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Xjet "taking" 9E flying? That statement assumes that Pinnacle owned routes in the first place, but the cold hard fact is that they don't. Delta owns the routes, and all of Pinnacle's routes are mostly outsourced DC9 routes from the NWA days of 2000 to 2012. And no regional airline is taking another regional airlines flying, unless the mainline partner says so. This thread should be re-titled because it is inaccurate. You don't own any routes or flying when at a regional.
Ty...I understand no one "owns" their routes. I am simply saying given the circumstances it is not that hard to believe that SkyWest with Xjet may be interested in the IAH and EWR flying. SM wouldn't be getting rid of anything he or Delta doesn't want in the first place. Delta's has made it perfectly clear they want to transition to an ALL jet fleet and I am sure even though those aircraft have UCAL colors on them it wouldn’t hurt Delta's feeling's if one of their primary feeder carriers went all Jet. Just a thought...
03-07-2012 | 07:18 PM
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03-07-2012 | 07:22 PM
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03-07-2012 | 07:54 PM
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